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Neubaurer and Grossing have Fiesta WRC not Focus
Grössing he can beat also with R5 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
VW Polo WRC tribute 2013-2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqq6H3eRnE8
Six cars and the whole package is what VW offers for Polo R WRC16 clients reports https://t.co/I8wiPKsL8e
It's funny, we're all talking about the drivers and while they are important I have a feeling that a lot of key staff in VW have got some interesting offers in their mailbox... anyone heard any such news? If Tommi is smart and honest about his long term goals, he will have phoned a fair few in preparation for the -18 season.
only if they are Finnish.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Volkswagen plans to shed 23,000 jobs in Germany to cut costs in wake of emissions scandal.
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Yep, in this wild silly season all news can turn real, but believing that VW Motorsport will get into the renting business and intend to homologate a museum car is a bit too much to me…Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
saw a few tweets suggesting the Polo2017 is being tested in Sweden right now
Can someone confirm?
No surprise. Sven Smeets confirmed few days ago that all planned tests for the rest of the season will be done according to previous plans.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
Seems like rather a waste of money when the manufacturer is under pressure to cut costs.
Quitting motorsport programmes is not cost cutting but saving face.
They are going to test in Sweden with Dieping & Gronholm
Depping & Grönholm :)Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
I think Gronholm is injured and it was reason why he withdraw from Setkani Mistru at Sosnova?
There isn't any logic in remaining the tests or am I missing something?
It's indeed weird, but Smeets stated to make the car 100 % but will never be homologated.Quote:
Originally Posted by MartijnS
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They are going to homologate it as well. Just not give it its competition stamp.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Steve
So who says FIA ain´t gonna swap rules in favour for AM to let drive a 2017 Polo in private team?
It was/is the meaning to homologate the car. But the car can't be totally homologated, because you need to be competing with the car to get the stamp.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
If that happened (which it won't), there would be another driver who would be at the front of the queue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
And what says that´s not an option? Who knows what´s going on behind the curtains?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Mr. Holmes also puzzled with recent VW Motorsport moves:
http://www.autosport.pt/ralis/wrc/vo...gar-polo-2017/
And there’s a wild rumour going on: VW M also considering to rent ’17 cars for 10m a year! http://www.sportmotores.com/portal/!...20055&id=47127
According to the rules it's not possible to homologate the car without manufacturer entry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
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Originally Posted by Mirek
Pravda? I think maybe they can just submit the Homologation papers, pay the fee, and PooF!
the car--or part is "Homologated".
Certainly was so in the past..
What means manufacturer entry? How is it in m-sport case? May be the new Polo 17 homologated as "Redbull Polo 17?" VW will for sure pay for homologation in any case, Redbull will put only its name on it and will send manufacturer entry with two cars and then together with VW they can rent it to anybody who would like to drive it during the season.
It still needs the manufacturer's blessings. Otherwise the Mirage R5 would have FIA homologation, not just local.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
Yep, both Red Bull and Qatar have deep pockets to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Homologation process is always made by a manu but the mandatory entry team can be a different entity, as long it’s endorsed by the manu. That’s why MSport is allowed as a WRC team and Mini’s last official entry was made under the name WRC Team Mini Portugal (Araujo's team license).
Anyway, for now only the scheduled FIA inspection of the '17 Polo seems to be confirmed. The 5 units building and a possible partner paying VW Motorsport to run a semi official team looks very unlikely, still...
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Originally Posted by Rally Power
Which is a shame because all the expertise and knowledge and organisation in the VW team goes POOF!
In all the discussion ow "where will Ogier (and also Latvala) go I was wondering if we could see what Ogier himself is made of, and by that I mean to make a reference to when Petter Sohlberg finally left Subaru and "wandered in the desert" for a while but then he showed who he was, and how important rallying was to himself: He put together a whole team and arranged finance and went out on his own and did a damn good job..
I had never really been a "fan" of Sohlberg prior to that, but when he said in essence "fawk it I'll do it myself" I re-thought and said "There's a real man, he's not giving up and that's the spirit I want to see".
And I contrasted that with McRae, with Hirvonen and a number of others who when they couldn't get a paid ride just quit.
And I wondered if Ogier was really dedicated to go rally above all...if that was the important thing in his life..
We won't have a chance to see that I guess.
Farewell | WRC 2016: VW RALLYTHEWORLD -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H_puY27KPo
I wonder whether VW have taken delivery of their Fabia R5s yet so they can copy them again for the Polo R5?
Good riddance you lying cheating bozzos... go endorse your tree hugging faggot clients.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Nothing new...that's the rumour that has been around since it was clear that VW would continue the new Polo homologation. If it happens, it won’t be a private team like we’re used to. It’s more a non official in-house team, as VW Motorsport would be running the ’17 WRC Polo’s on behalf of a sponsor named team.Quote:
Originally Posted by JUF
VW doesn’t need to get publicly involved (like it's their wish), but besides keeping to pay VW Motorsport staff it would also give some tech support, as only an auto manufacturer is entitled to homologate a WRC car and appoint its representative WRC running team. Btw, whatever team is appointed by VW it’ll have to run at least 2 cars along the new Polo first season, otherwise the car homologation would be cancelled.
Qatar and Al-Atiyah have been rumoured since day one, because of their links with VW and Red Bull, but the other driver of this hypothetical Qatar/Red Bull team remains in doubt: will he be another paying driver or one of the current VW drivers? Bets on and fingers crossed!
Yes, I can't imagine VW allowing their 2017 car to be run by a private team.. but what about the 2016 cars? Would they sell them off or would they have to be run by VW themselves too?
I believe Smeets already said their aim is to rent the cars and VW M staff seems available to service them.
Yes, they repeatedly said they have six '16 cars on offer to rent in 2017. They want to rent cars, it's their new focus.
Also overall it's now a bit more clear to me what they want to do. Essentially they won't close the department but instead focus it purely to customer service, similar to what they're doing with Audi. So essentially they're turning an investment and r&d department supported by marketing and r&d budget into a service department for customers that will make them money. So I expect we will see some '16 Polo's for the next couple of years and then a bunch of R5's.
The question is if anyone can come up with a deal to run the '17 cars in a similar way. I guess it depends if it's just financial or logistic. Focusing the team on servicing '16 cars and producing R5s may not leave enough people available to run the '17 cars. The scenario in which this works is quite complex with many parts needing to come together:
you need a sponsor: eg. Qatar/Al-Attiyah or Red Bull
you need manpower: VW diverting people from other projects, or an outside team like PH Sport did for Citroen
drivers: if Ogier does go to M-Sport or Citroen and JML to Toyota, just leaves Mikkelsen as a top driver available
it's a bit of a fairytale scenario
Pity M-Sport bothered with the new Fiesta... they could've just taken the Polo's off VWs 's hands... ;) And Ogier.
Actually sometimes fairytales becomes real, not by magic but trough passion and hard work. VW Motorsport rally staff has both and so has Al-Attiyah. It’d be great having them around, with or without Ogier. Fingers crossed!Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I strongly believe that next week we will know:
A) Where is Ogier going
B) Who is driving Toyota