LOTOS 73rd Rally Poland 2016

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30th June 2016, 19:03
Fast Eddie WRC

Kruuda fastest WRC2 now... good start for the DMacks.
30th June 2016, 19:29
giù tutto!

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Lappi somewhere among WRC cars again... let's see how long can he keep it on the road.

Or how long Skoda remains in one piece. Of course in press release there can be fairies and goblins...
30th June 2016, 19:50
dimviii

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmN6lbwWkAAuL8l.jpg:large

https://youtu.be/XWYBZd79Oc8
30th June 2016, 20:32
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by giù tutto!

Or how long Skoda remains in one piece. Of course in press release there can be fairies and goblins...

What do You speak about?
30th June 2016, 20:47
dimviii

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photo.../pbe_ir_01.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.p...2&fotograf=294
30th June 2016, 21:09
HarriK

I'm sure Lappi is full attack all the time in this rally. Hopefully all goes well!
30th June 2016, 21:19
dimviii

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmOSTlhWQAAAro7.jpg
30th June 2016, 22:08
stefanvv

Is he waiting for the shoot-out?
30th June 2016, 23:20
GigiGalliNo1

Some photos from my day

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1st July 2016, 00:23
Rally Power

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Originally Posted by dimviii

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmOSTlhWQAAAro7.jpg

He already seemed unhappy when the score was 1-0…better luck next time. Bamos lá cambada! Força Portugal!!!
1st July 2016, 06:54
EstWRC

Tänak and dmack making history, leading a wrc rally first time

and he continues where he left off last year https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTr...8699451661730/
1st July 2016, 06:57
GravelBen

A few drivers quite rightly unhappy about stage obstacles being added and changed after recce. Very poor form from the organisers.
1st July 2016, 07:57
EstWRC

They're really making it hard for themselves. Yesterday they couldn't control the spectators on shakedown and now they are changing the stages after recce.
1st July 2016, 08:24
Eric

"Mads is really sarcastic sometimes". When is Mads going to grow up?? What a guy:mad:
1st July 2016, 08:28
AL14

Very good job by Mikkelsen this morning so far. Didn't expect him leading.

Tanak is always good in this kind of rallys. Seems DMACKs too.
1st July 2016, 09:02
Ucci

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL14

Very good job by Mikkelsen this morning so far. Didn't expect him leading.

Tanak is always good in this kind of rallys. Seems DMACKs too.

Agree !
1st July 2016, 09:08
Mirek

Tidemand and Suninen a lot faster than the rest of WRC2.
1st July 2016, 09:10
maciotacio

Now its time for stage with that crazy jump! Hope for some spectacular videos
1st July 2016, 09:12
Simmi

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Originally Posted by maciotacio

Now its time for stage with that crazy jump! Hope for some spectacular videos

I'm guessing that place will be well taped off now. Last year was the time to be there. If it's the same scenes again I'd be worried for the organisers.
1st July 2016, 09:19
ELPE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Tidemand and Suninen a lot faster than the rest of WRC2.

it would be interesting to see these two guys in a WRC car next year
1st July 2016, 09:25
AL14

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Originally Posted by ELPE

it would be interesting to see these two guys in a WRC car next year

I agree.
Tidemand deserves a chance and Suninen is only at his second year in WRC2 and he is already among the best.
My money on him.
1st July 2016, 09:27
Mirek

Suninen needs to find also some consistency. So far he has been crashing way too much.
1st July 2016, 09:29
EightGear

Someone take Ostberg from that car...
1st July 2016, 09:33
Lundefaret

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

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As I said, this could be Otts rally.
Dmacks reportedly faster than Michelins in testing, Ott obviously VERY fast on these stages, only issue will be to get the tires to last. But good going from Dmack, they have done a great job!
1st July 2016, 09:34
AL14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

Suninen needs to find also some consistency. So far he has been crashing way too much.

He won 2 out of 3 events in WRC2 in his second year in the category. I think it is hard to ask him more. Of course he has to work on different aspect since he is not like Ogier yet... :)
1st July 2016, 09:40
Mirek

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL14

He won 2 out of 3 events in WRC2 in his second year in the category. I think it is hard to ask him more. Of course he has to work on different aspect since he is not like Ogier yet... :)

I don't say he's bad. Not at all. However I am not sure if moving him straight into the WRC car is a good idea. Maybe it is.
1st July 2016, 09:41
EstWRC

Ott you crasy man! cant wait to see the jump of this last stage.
1st July 2016, 09:43
Mirek

Lefebvre and Breen very good times now as well.
1st July 2016, 09:44
AL14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirek

I don't say he's bad. Not at all. However I am not sure if moving him straight into the WRC car is a good idea. Maybe it is.

Oh ok sorry, I have misunderstood. Yes, why not, maybe another year in WR2 learning some discipline could be good.
1st July 2016, 09:59
Jeppe

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Lefebvre and Breen very good times now as well.

Citroën shoot-out for 2017 ;)
1st July 2016, 10:02
Simmi

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL14

Oh ok sorry, I have misunderstood. Yes, why not, maybe another year in WR2 learning some discipline could be good.

Interesting question for Suninen and his agent. If he gets offered a WRC drive for next year he should take it IMO - because the works chance may not come round again. You never know. If he can get himself a two-year deal like Camilli did then at least he buys himself some time to learn on the job.

We've seen how hard it is to dislodge the current crop of drivers will all the experience and seat time they have.
1st July 2016, 10:06
pantealex

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Interesting question for Suninen and his agent. If he gets offered a WRC drive for next year he should take it IMO - because the works chance may not come round again. You never know. If he can get himself a two-year deal like Camilli did then at least he buys himself some time to learn on the job.

We've seen how hard it is to dislodge the current crop of drivers will all the experience and seat time they have.

His agent is Timo Jouhki (he was also behind Kankkunen, Mäkinen, Rovanperä and Gardemaister)
He should know what to do!

My opinion is: Get 1 more WRC2 season.
1st July 2016, 10:11
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantealex

His agent is Timo Jouhki (he was also behind Kankkunen, Mäkinen, Rovanperä and Gardemaister)
He should know what to do!

My opinion is: Get 1 more WRC2 season.

The old days are over where he could do whatever he wanted with his oil money promoting dogs to teams in WRC... Now teams prefer to hire real rally drivers.
1st July 2016, 10:12
AL14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Interesting question for Suninen and his agent. If he gets offered a WRC drive for next year he should take it IMO - because the works chance may not come round again. You never know. If he can get himself a two-year deal like Camilli did then at least he buys himself some time to learn on the job.

We've seen how hard it is to dislodge the current crop of drivers will all the experience and seat time they have.

Oh well yes. If he gets offered he will (and IMO should) accept because as you said you never know what future will bring.
1st July 2016, 10:14
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by AL14

He won 2 out of 3 events in WRC2 in his second year in the category. I think it is hard to ask him more. Of course he has to work on different aspect since he is not like Ogier yet... :)

Suninen drove his first event in WRC2 in Germany last year. He did two rounds in FRC 2015 with Fabia S2000. Poland is his 17th start in 4WD car. I wouldn't say he crashes too much, though it's not unheard of. His learning curve has taken me by surprise. He is now on far higher level than he was a year ago. Or half year ago. He is progressing fast. Suninen is not taking the normal path anyway, so I say it wouldn't be bad for his career to step up if possible.
1st July 2016, 10:24
rp

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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Suninen drove his first event in WRC2 in Germany last year. He did two rounds in FRC 2015 with Fabia S2000. Poland is his 17th start in 4WD car. I wouldn't say he crashes too much, though it's not unheard of. His learning curve has taken me by surprise. He is now on far higher level than he was a year ago. Or half year ago. He is progressing fast. Suninen is not taking the normal path anyway, so I say it wouldn't be bad for his career to step up if possible.

It has been very big surprise! Rather sure that Suninen will drive Toyota next year. It seems that he is better than Lappi and Tommi wants at least one Finnish driver who is able to fight with the WRC top drivers in the future...
1st July 2016, 10:29
EstWRC

ahh, lunch break. dmacks started to give up, thank god! lol
1st July 2016, 10:31
Lundefaret

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Suninen drove his first event in WRC2 in Germany last year. He did two rounds in FRC 2015 with Fabia S2000. Poland is his 17th start in 4WD car. I wouldn't say he crashes too much, though it's not unheard of. His learning curve has taken me by surprise. He is now on far higher level than he was a year ago. Or half year ago. He is progressing fast. Suninen is not taking the normal path anyway, so I say it wouldn't be bad for his career to step up if possible.

Suninen is of course an exceptional talent, and all tough I - on a general basis - think drivers need a little maturity - age - before they go to WRC, Suninen is a driver I think could handle it. Just as long as he is in a good program with out to much pressure.
He is incredible.
Pontus, Lappi and off course Evans are VERY good drivers, with MUCH more experience, and still Suninen beats them hands down.
I saw him first time on the Neste Rally Finland in 2014, and it was a lot of talk about him. He had very little rally experience, but he drove REALLY well. I think he finished 17th overall and 3rd of the 2WD cars.
Timo Jouhki has also done a very good job with him, and also the time with Toyota has off course been benificial.
Will be very interesting to follow this young gentleman in the future :)
1st July 2016, 10:36
EstWRC

Evans isnt doing any favors for himself to get back to wrc at the moment while being slower than Tidemand and Lappi and even Kruuda. But rally is still long.
1st July 2016, 10:39
giù tutto!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantealex

His agent is Timo Jouhki (he was also behind Kankkunen, Mäkinen, Rovanperä and Gardemaister)
He should know what to do!

My opinion is: Get 1 more WRC2 season.

As we all know, Jouhki was behind Hirvonen and is still behind Latvala also. And I heard he was seen in Lithuania couple of weeks ago when the son of Rovanpera was driving there. Quite interesting...

Maybe one season more WRC2 for Suninen would be good, IMO Hirvonen wasn't ready for factory seat when he was signed for Subaru. As we saw few years ago, there is no harm for the driver to drive a car in the lower class. (Ogier with s2000 Skoda 2012)

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