Yes, but you weren't kept in a hospital though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
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Yes, but you weren't kept in a hospital though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
McLaren have claimed that Alonso crashed due to gusty winds. Now... I am not claiming McLaren are lying, but really, is this the best you can do. How is it that these amazingly strong and apparently extremely localised winds didn't push Vettel's Ferrari off the track as well, as he was right behind Fred when the accident happened. And if a wind gust did push the Silver Minger off the track, don't you think you need a radical redesign of your car McLaren? We do get wind in many places around the world, and the sight of a McLaren spearing off into the weeds with every gust will be funny (not to mention the excuses and babble Ron will come up with) it will get beyond a joke quite quickly.
I'm going to wait and see what Fred says, I don't think he will candy coat it!Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield5
Statement suggests that Alonso was conscious, braking, steering and downshifting to the point of impact (therefore no electric shock) and that it was a simple accident, car ran wide, partly due to gusty winds, outside wheels on astroturf, spins up and heads into the inside wall, which by some fluke knocked Alonso about a bit, causing a concussion. Seems plausible enough, Alonso is sitting smiling for pics from hospital, and I'm sure if there were more to it he wouldn't be wanting to cover it up
It depends on what herr Denis tells him to say. Eventhough Alonso tends to be quite up front with things, he will toe the party line this early in his new marriage with McLaren.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
It just seems unbelievable that a gust of wind can
1. push a gp car off track, considering that the aero even at low speed should make air flow over and around the car, it's not as if the McLarens is a slab sided delivery van.
2. not similarly push a second car off, when it was in fred's wheel tracks.
I think it is quite plausible. I've read that when he took turn 3 he ran pretty wide and may have gotten onto some astroturf with the left rear. The rear gave out just enough to drastically change directions and sent him towards the wall. The massive shunt could have knocked him out for some time. The guy that photographed the incident said his head was tilted to the side for a bit. The stewards that approached the car were said to have tapped on his helmet, yet there was no response for up to ten minutes. It was also said that he had to be taken out of the car. Further reports suggest that when he was taken to the med center, he acted agitated. As if he came to and freaked out a bit due to disorientation (remember the photos after Massa got hit with that Brawn spring).
It makes sense to me that perhaps he did get caught by a gust of wind and that it was exasterbated by the car running wide. Add to it, perhaps that he was playing with some dials adjusting the car and we have a perfectly possible scenario that could have happened. The guy got knocked out and i'm sure the whole thing is a little more embarrassing than anything else.
Glad he's ok.
What bemused me was that in the same statement as blaming the wind, McLaren said that "absolutely no loss of aerodynamic pressure was recorded". How on earth does a gust of wind cause an F1 car to crash, if not by causing a loss of downforce due to the change in airspeed?Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield5
Sainz had a similar accident the same day and blamed the same thing, a gust of wind. Bottas claimed the wind was sometimes so strong he had to see-saw at the wheel down the main straight to compensate on the same date.Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield5
Maldonaldo had a very similar accident at exactly the same spot a year or so ago again claiming that the wind pushed him off.
I don't see a conspiracy theory here.
The only odd thing here is that Alonso clearly took a major knock, yet the car still had all four wheels intact when it was brought back to the paddock.
I think Fred should sue Spain, Santander, Ferrari, and Vettel, for starters. :p:
Well, that's true that the explanation doesn't hold water. Unless it was a proper windstorm, which blows everything out of its way, there is some wind blowing or breezing most of the time, when cars are racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by anfield5
You're not taking into consideration the amount of hot air that Alonso produces himself, and the synergistic effect the combination would have on the stability of the car. :rolleyes: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
7 laps for McLaren and that's it for the day, they need to change the engine. They're running out of time to get their problems sorted out.
Even if Alonso is not declared fit for the first race, he may not be missing much.
We're on the back foot lads :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyL
McLaren is a certified Piece of Sh!t - Well at least Honda is. Lets see if they can get it going but perhaps they should look for a new engine supplier.
Nonsense!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Sure Honda are behind the 8-ball now. But they will develop the engine as the season progresses. Expect them to be pushing Renault and Ferrari by mid season. Remember the other suppliers had a year in 2014 to hone their engines in race conditions, Honda haven't. Plus the issues don't really appear to be with the actual engine, more the control systems associated with it. If this is the case the performance that they are currently lacking is probably in there.
My guess is that it will take them some races to finish a race. And, they will be running out of Engines early on.
Lets see where can Fred bail too - Lotus????
My guess is you are guessing wrong on both counts, but we're about to see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Looks like Jense is about to get 100 laps in today, that's a huge boost for McLaren!
A decent first day with their 2015 car for Force India too, they had a bit of a slow start but are over 70 laps with it now. Although their lap times are nothing to write home about so far.
Actually your comment lends itself to an interesting dilemma. McLaren should take their lumps in the flyaway races, while not destroying PU's, because I think by the European season they will have caught most of the rest of the field. I think Jense, and Fred are going to have to show a lot of restraint in the early going as to not grenade PU's :grenade:Quote:
Originally Posted by McTazMy guess is you are guessing wrong on both counts, but we're about to see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01