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Is that Bernie's this year's Christmas card?
I like what Vettel had to say about it.
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"This is absurd and punishes those who have worked hard during a whole season," he said. "I respect the old traditions in F1 and do not understand this new rule."
Bernie told Autosport
Like the medal idea I predict this abomination will "die in the dirt of Hollywood", metaphorically speaking of course. ;)Quote:
It may well be that the rule is cancelled altogether at the next [Strategy Group] meeting in January. I think it should be the final three races or nothing.
That would end up being like the much hated Chase in NASCAR.
Absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I think this is potentially bad news for underfunded teams. Every once in a while a mid-field team comes up with a brilliant technical idea, scores good points in the beginning of season, but then falls by the wayside in the second half of season due to the lack of funds for improving the chassis. Doubling the points at the end of season will only amplify this effect. With double points in the last three races of season, Brawn GPs double title wins may not have happened for example.
Is it correct that despite the uproar they are still going ahead with this farce.
I cant bare whats happening to F1.
Sadly yes. Ecclestone more or less blackmailed them into it. Deal went like : 'give me the double points and you lot will get your cost cap'.
A consequent boycot is the only thing left. Problem is, too many people will be too chicken to do it. Some people will pay money to see cars running about with ghastly penises having off their fronts (and we haven't even seen the 'bollock nose' that people like Scarbs and TJ13 expect to see on some designs, see picture)
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If the TV ratings went crashing in a great ball of fire, maybe some people in FIA la-la-land understand that they can't just ignore us indefinitely. After all, it's us viewers, who fork over the dough that the toad from Suffolk milks out of F1.
With the news this morning that the little man wants to make the last THREE races double points, I decided to investigate what a difference (if any) it'd have made in comparison to the right way (no double points), the wrong way (double points for last race), and his new idea of trying to appease the fans but not backing down.
Key:
A - no double points
B - double points for last race
C - double points for last three races
2013
A - Vettel wins title at race 16 of 19
B - Vettel wins title at race 16 of 19
C - Vettel wins title at race 17 of 19
2012
A - Vettel wins title at race 20 of 20
B - Alonso wins title at race 20 of 20
C - Alonso wins title at race 20 of 20
2011
A - Vettel wins title at race 15 of 19
B - Vettel wins title at race 16 of 19
C - Vettel wins title at race 17 of 19
2010
A - Vettel wins title at race 19 of 19
B - Vettel wins title at race 19 of 19
C - Vettel wins title at race 19 of 19
2009
A - Button wins title at race 16 of 17
B - Button wins title at race 17 of 17
C - Vettel wins title at race 17 of 17
2008
A - Hamilton wins title at race 18 of 18
B - Massa wins title at race 18 of 18
C - Massa wins title at race 18 of 18
2007
A - Kimi wins title at race 17 of 17
B - Kimi wins title at race 17 of 17
C - Kimi wins title at race 17 of 17
2006
A - Alonso wins title at race 18 of 18
B - Alonso wins title at race 18 of 18
C - Alonso wins title at race 18 of 18
2005
A - Alonso wins title at race 17 of 19
B - Alonso wins title at race 19 of 19 (Kimi would have been 19 behind with one race to go, with 20 up for grabs)
C - Alonso wins title at race 19 of 19 (Kimi would have been 13 behind with one race to go, with 20 up for grabs)
2004
A - Schumacher wins title at race 14 of 18
B - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 18
C - Schumacher wins title at race 17 of 18
2003
A - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 16
B - Kimi wins title at race 16 of 16
C - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 16
I might consider doing more but we'll see…
Those are some interesting figure thank you very much. There is one factor that is less tangible that I think needs to be taken into consideration. With the prior knowledge that the last race is worth double points, teams in the fight for the title, and ones that are just looking to gain places in the final standings would most likely institute an engine use strategy that will change the typical strategy, like teams generally using new engines for Monza, and Spa, that can not be applied in retrospect. However, now teams may risk using a tired engine at a race that they would normally use a fresher one in order to ensure that the double points race has a lower use engine. I think it would be rather amusing if it came down to the last race with three pilots in the hunt for the WDC (or three teams for the WCC) and all three took the penalty to have a fresh lump for Interlagos. Perhaps the rules should stipulate that the teams all get a new lump for that double points race.That is one reason I object to this rule. Of course it will be the same for everyone. Just a thought :crazy: .
I think to make it fair they should offer double points for every race of the season. ;)
Nice work Minardi, interesting to see the effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by minardi
That's a good idea, but you're not thinking like Bernie. The logical conclusion is that the points for each race should be awarded in proportion to their sanctioning fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
Brain seems a little fried today after this, so think these are right.
2002
A - Schumacher wins title at race 11 of 17
B - Schumacher wins title at race 12 of 17 (in Germany)
C - Schumacher wins title at race 15 of 17 (in Italy)
2001
A - Schumacher wins title at race 13 of 17
B - Schumacher wins title at race 14 of 17
C - Schumacher wins title at race 15 of 17
2000
A - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 17
B - Schumacher wins title at race 17 of 17
C - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 17
Note: Interesting to note that with double points in last three races, would have allowed MS to wrap title sooner than if it was double points for just the last race.
1999
A - Hakkinen wins title at race 16 of 16
B - Hakkinen wins title at race 16 of 16
C - Hakkinen wins title at race 16 of 16
1998
A - Hakkinen wins title at race 16 of 16
B - Hakkinen wins title at race 16 of 16
C - Hakkinen wins title at race 16 of 16
1997
A - Villeneuve wins title at race 17 of 17
B - Villeneuve wins title at race 17 of 17
C - Villeneuve wins title at race 17 of 17
Note: MS would have had the 1 point advantage over JV going into the last race in all three scenarios, so likely same incident during the final race.
1996
A - Hill wins title at race 16 of 16
B - Hill wins title at race 16 of 16
C - Hill wins title at race 16 of 16
1995
A - Schumacher wins title at race 15 of 17
B - Schumacher wins title at race 15 of 17
C - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 17
1994
A - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 16
B - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 16
C - Schumacher wins title at race 16 of 16
1993
A - Prost wins title at race 14 of 16
B - Prost wins title at race 15 of 16
C - Prost wins title at race 15 of 16