forget it Alo, be very grateful for sixth :p
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forget it Alo, be very grateful for sixth :p
Hamilton vs Alonso... that was tits
Hulkenberg and that Sauber look so awesome today. Brilliant job thus far.
Kudos to Ho Lee Fuk bringing out the fire truck to spice up the race.
Hulk train :D
Gro requesting permission to pass :p
I hate the right hander turn 5. I call it cockblock corner. It just immediately shuts off any racing action that was brewing out of turn 4.
hehe Kimi ain't having any of it, stuff it Eric ! :laugh:
oh well :dozey:
Poorly designed track. If you don't pass in 1, 3 or 4 you basically have no chance for the rest of the lap.
very dissapointing race
team mercedes are th donkeys of the race
1. not pitting hamilton earlier
2. not communicating to rosberg to let hamilton by which cost him p3 to kimi
3. just poor strategy calls all the way around
it is late in the season they should know their advantages and disadvantages
so running a different strategy that optimizes the drivers and the car are in order
doing the same stupid thing time and time again is madness
Alonso has just hit back at Pirelli in Spanish TV saying that they are "borderline in quality" and that he doesn't understand how Pirelli would criticise him after the season they've had. While he might have a point, sometimes I wish he didn't have such a big mouth.
Apparently, Grosjean and Permane have had a BIG argument on team radio right after the race ended. One can only guess what they were arguing about.
Grosjean probably expected team orders towards the endQuote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
Pretty good race, so I am happy.:) Action everywhere and Hülkenberg is making a strong impression for the driver market.
I don't know, which setup did Sauber choose, but Hulk's top speed was remarkable. Others couldn't overtake him even with DRS open.
Pity that Gutiérrez lost out in the first corner melée after a promising start to the weekend. But it looked like in the end he wasn't quite fast enough to emerge in the points.
Webber has been massively unlucky recently.
I'd go further than what he has said.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
I'd publically call Hembrey a gutless, Red Bull & Mercedes c--ksucking coward.
It is exactly what he is, after all.
This was a very good race. I really liked the race track. Those sharp turns and long straights are quite cool. A lot of cars visibly on the edge and slide around even during qualification. I was looking forward to watching the 2014 race, but I am afraid that Formula 1 will be banned in Korea after Vettel praised Japan as the best place. :laugh:
It would be ridiculous if he doesn't get a top drive in 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
I'm pleased that Alonso and Webber said what they did about Pirelli. Criticism richly deserved.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
Are Bathurst and the Nurburgring Nordschliefe similarly poorly designed? Drivers can't pass for most of the lap on those circuits either.Quote:
Originally Posted by webberf1
After the 2nd lap I lost the will to watch this race and perhaps F1 (yet again!). He is always on pole or always in P1 and stretching his lead to 3+ seconds in 1/2 laps.
I did switch on the tv again when it was 25 laps down and the Rosberg fire breathing car was the biggest spectacle in ages.. I missed the old cars bottoming out and the engines bursting into flame/smoke (not after a collision as in Webber's but on their own...)
Luckily I did watch the rest of the race trying to forget about Schumacher errrr Vettel, and from P2 and back it was a fun race. Hamilton, Alonso and Hulkenberg especially as well as the comedy going on from P10-15 between the Williams cars and Massa et al.
Just seen the Korean GP highlights. Great race, very very sorry for Mark Webber. Love that guy, but cricket is he unlucky or what!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/24419856
A tyre manufacturer apologising to a driver?
"He should seek advice from vettel" that is a massive kick in the nuts!
What hapenned to rosbergs fire breathing car? I diddnt watch the race after I saw the qualifying yesterday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm
Are you serious? :eek: If you can't overtake on the Nordschleife, maybe you shouldn't be driving it. Flugplatz, Schwedenkreuz, Wehrseiffen, Breidscheidt, Bergwerk, Hedwigshöhe, Brünnchen, Schwalbenschwanz and Galgenkopf are all prime overtaking spots. What are you talking about? Comparing the Ring to a Tilkedrome is ridiculous. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiftingGears
Very entertaining race. :)
Welcome Back F1Boat. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Not much..he went into the pits and got his nose changed...it was basically the underside rubbing the track and spraying sparks all around for half a lap - also screwing Hamilton's strategy I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Nordschleife is very narrow and if you put modern F1 cars with its cornering speeds there without DRS and KERS, then it would provide some thinking, where would it be possible to overtake.
Regarding the Yeongam circuit I have to say that the endless corner-sequences in the second and third sector are a bit tiring. It would have been good to put a longish straight somewhere there to increase overtaking opportunities like they have done in China. Or like Estoril has before the last corner sequence, which reminds Yeongam a bit.
Another great win for Seb. The guy continues to prove his worth race after race.
Referring to Alonso's and Webber's comments after the race, I am slightly disillusioned with F1 at the moment. Specifically with the Pirelli tires. I know they have improved since Silverstone but what happened to Perez should not have happened and I doubt very much the same thing would have happened to Bridgestone were they still in the sport.
Since they are staying in the sport for another 5 years they need to improve the quality of their product. This borderline stuff is too risky and some day a tire is going to delaminate, hit a drivers helmet and we'll have the first fatality in F1 since the great Senna. I really hope they sort this sh*t out.
I think somehow Fred found the reverse gear in the transmission. I'm sure it'd due to the tires that others can perform on. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
Interesting race. Overall with a few tweaks this could be an interesting track, even though the surroundings lack any character at all. Fantastic drive by Hulk holding up two world champions for so long.
Rather strange radio stuff from Lotus. Even if Grosjean did have the pace, what purpose does it serve them to make it public they want to screw Kimi over? They acted as if Grosjean was just cruising and had pace to space, and from the sounds of things they didn't do either driver any favors and probably pissed them off. NOT the way to attract the best drivers to a team.
We all can't be as good at pronosticating as you are ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
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Originally Posted by airshifter
That was part of my point... we both got punked by Alonso going the wrong direction. :)
It's rare for him to get passed so many times on track. Quite a few cars had pace over him this race it seems. His strange exits were obviously trying to save the tires, but even then got extreme.
Yep, I agree with your post in its entirety.Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Perhaps on a trackday when passing sunday drivers, but absolutely not in anything resembling a modern F1 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Only if you colossally missed the point. Which you did. My point is that I don't think tracks should be judged as good or bad based purely on the number of overtaking opportunities available to modern F1 cars. That's the kind of mentality that leads to the same dull slow corner-long straight-slow corner circuits that are popping up in grands prix now.Quote:
What are you talking about? Comparing the Ring to a Tilkedrome is ridiculous. :laugh:
You wouldn't make it past Quiddelbacher Höhe in a modern F1 car as the suspension would break upon impact after the car has been airborn, nevermind that you would probably land in the armco anyways. There is a reason why Schumacher and Heidfeld drove around the Nordschleife like old men in a Volvo on their demonstration runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiftingGears
[quote=dj_bytedisaster]You wouldn't make it past Quiddelbacher Höhe in a modern F1 car as the suspension would break upon impact after the car has been airborn, nevermind that you would probably land in the armco anyways. There is a reason why Schumacher and Heidfeld drove around the Nordschleife like old men in a Volvo on their demonstration runs.[/quote:3ggrv8aw]Quote:
Originally Posted by ShiftingGears
That much is obvious and does not detract from the point I made.