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Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
I've never used the ignore option but I think it doesn't protect you from seeing the quotes from an ignored users.
From the quote from Schumacher I provided, it is clear that Kimi didn't complain in private either. Not enough, anyway.
That is why I don't like him.
A lack of public criticism may be good for morale, and it may also be a negative if it isn't matched by complaints behind closed doors if it allows complacency.
As Webber said last week, if Alonso is doing the bulk of the work, is demanding more and perceives an inequality in work ethic, that is going to cause problems which are, at source, Kimi's fault.
Now, if Kimi is leading the Championship, if Kimi is winning more races, if he wins at Monza, then Alonso can cry all he likes for me.
If Kimi doesn't add sufficient value to the team, then Alonso has every right to let everyone know.
Then the Tifosi can judge.
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I've never used the ignore option but I think it doesn't protect you from seeing the quotes from an ignored users.[/quote:3cx1lisy]
Thank you for pointing that out.
You don't say? :dork:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
An inconvient truth for the vindictive :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
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Originally Posted by airshifter
Ferrari fan here and not shaken in the least. I hope Kimi kicks some serious ass for the team; it’s just that I see some rather hilarious "chip on her shoulder" type of juvinile resentment from certain members. This generally comes from not ever having been an athlete, so they live their lives vicariously through a faultless god, others are quite reasonable though. I would suggest you re-read the blog (I posted the link in a previous comment) I'm pretty sure this is another case of you taking the opportunity to talk sophomoric smack that you are quite fond of, because that particular piece is garbage. My argument regarding the blog is not based on speculation, it is an argument that merely points out that a blogger who writes a lot of good stuff has taken to provocative speculation, and that is what I'm calling it. If certain members want to use it to help them feel better about their dream that Zo will crumble under the relentless pressure from Ice that is fine, I'm just not buying it.
Here are more words of wisdom from TJ13.
Red Bull yes at least not likely this season. Not capable of being competitive with Mercedes and Lotus? :rotflmao: Wrong!! Not only is this guy way off in his prognostication, heseems to think he is a mind reader in this matter. That is irresponsible journalism. It's Felipe that can't drive the car, or Ferrari would be firmly in 2nd in the WCC race. Of course one should never let facts get in the way of a good story :dozey:Quote:
Fernando’s comment about winning 3 or 4 consecutive races is delusional – and he knows it. This clearly demonstrates his utter lack of belief that the team can deliver him anything remotely competitive to fight the Red Bull, Lotus and Mercedes cars
Which is exactly why it should not be used as evidence to substanciate an opinnion :idea:Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Could I take this opportunity to point out that I was replying to Alca's post which quoted the blog, and not replying to the poster who supplied the link
I had given him a second-chance, thinking I may have been hasty and caught him on a bad day, which happens to us all, but it would appear that his natural approach to posting is what I encountered first time.
Just so that clears it up.
I wonder how much Ferrari is paying Felipe to blatantly dis' Kimi with the example of not only Fred but Mike also being a better driver than Ice?
http://www.aperfectworld.org/cartoons/2 ... chslap.gifQuote:
Massa has partnered three World Champions during his eight years at Ferrari; first teaming up with Schumacher then Kimi Raikkonen and finally Alonso.
And although on paper Schumacher is the most successful of the trio with his seven Drivers' titles and his 91 race victories, Massa rates Alonso above the German.
"I've always had very strong team-mates," he said in an interview with Sky Sports F1.
"I always learnt that you need to be perfect because if you're not perfect they will be in front of you.
"For sure I've had some tough times as well with strong team-mates. The one was suffering more [against] was Alonso. I think maybe he's more complete.
"Schumacher was very, very good. He was amazing and a very complete driver as well. But I think maybe Alonso is even more perfect."
Oh wait; it can't be the team influencing him to say such things because “The Judge” proved beyond a shadow of a doubt:
It has to be Zo begging Felipe to please say he is better than Kimi. :confused:Quote:
the team will initially rally behind Kimi, which might tip the scales in Kimi's favour in the early season.
Or is Massa trying to up his stock by saying he is still really fast,
just not as fast as a living god :dozey:http://i46.tinypic.com/hv9ul3.gif :sailor: http://i46.tinypic.com/hv9ul3.gif :angel:
The quote you presented is not from any of TJ's articles, so what does that have to do with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
Yeah, could I get you please not bother me with minor details while I'm in the zone, Thanks. :rolleyes: ;)
Best wishes,
http://i.imgur.com/aBmAP6U.jpg
http://www.racingnerds.com/?p=2906
"Kimi Räikkönen going to Ferrari has among Italians widely been interpreted so that Kimi’s sacking in 2009 was a big mistake.
MTV3 revealed on Wednesday evening an interesting detail concerning the contract negotiations: Räikkönen demanded an apology from Luca di Montezemolo – and he got it!
- When it comes to the apology, I have understood that the concrete apology was a demand before continuing the negotiations with Ferrari. And it was specifically from Montezemolo to Räikkönen in person, Oskari Saari told.
According to some information the bad blood between Räikkönen and di Montezemo could had prevented the contract from happening. But now they will work together starting from next season.
- After the signature these things are now sealed and put int the bundle with past happenings. They can move forward, Saari said in Tulosruutu.
http://www.suomif1.com/2013/09/mtv3-tul "
Forgive my cynicism, but I think I'll file this under "Kimi Fan Fantasy".
I seriously doubt that, had Luca and Kimi's relationship previously been such an issue, that Montezemolo would bow to such a demand.
He is many things, Mr Luca, but he isn't soft.
Furthermore, making demands like this won't sit well with any management. I just don't buy it.
However, it seems there are enough people who will believe any old tripe spouted in regard to Kimi, Ferrari and Fernando. Some of the blogs and sites I've looked at in the last few days - well, if they had been in old fashioned printed paper, I wouldn't classify them as good enough to wipe my backside with.
They've just stopped short from saying Kimi had LDM do all this on his knees :laugh:
Odd that I can't find that reported on anywhere else in the English speaking world :confused:
I left a comment on that page, but it is still "awaiting moderation" :laugh:
They neglected to mention that LDM is willing to give Kimi a BJ whenever he wins a race next year. It's in point 7.6 of section 3 in his contract for 2014.
Clause 7.7 covers swallowing I am lead to believe.......Quote:
Originally Posted by 555-04Q2
TMCI (too much contract information) .Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
I don't want to consider what Clause 7.8 could be.
SGWilko, Bagwan, Parabolica ....... :laugh: :up:
Slot gaps in the rear crash structure??? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
Maybe Luca has his own F-Duct, and only Kimi can activate it?
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Originally Posted by Parabolica
Massa, why didn't you collied?Quote:
"I know both Fernando and Kimi on and off the track and I rate them as excellent drivers, but I'm afraid they will collide when sharing the team," said Massa in an interview with Brazilian F1 broadcaster Galvao Bueno on TV Globo.
This has turned into a tabloid orgy........I love it!! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Koz
:laugh: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Parabolica
Surely something unexpected.
It was surprising from Kimi's point of view, but it shows he is above in-team politics and relations and even if things go badly, he doesn't keep any bad feelings and is ready to have a go again. And additionally he has perhaps learnt something from last time, has matured and is ready to 'communicate' more, since last time it seemed like a cultural issue, which is why he didn't fit in the team.
It has been something to think about for di Montezemolo in particular as well, but it looks like he and Domenicali as professionals have left personal feelings behind and act pragmatically - they need a better driver in the seat of Massa and Räikkönen was on the market. So they are prepared to make their amendments to their mindset as well in their new relationship with Kimi.
Interesting times ahead.
Kimi will not be Ferraris salvation if not the car is up to it. But, he will be better than Alonso for the team as it evident in long and short term.
Rogro punked Kimi!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Rogro punked Kimi! :wave:
Rogro punked Kimi!
Best wishes,http://i.imgur.com/Ra9jlr5.jpg
hardly an achievement against a team mate with a pinched nerve in the back. It was a minor miracle that Raikkönen could drive at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
Just messin' with ya''awl boys
Just messin' with ya''awl boys
Just messin' with ya''awl boys :wave:
He really showed Fred who the boss is! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Zemo will be very glad that Fred has a multi year contract, because without him they are completely lost.
Still hoping Kimi turns it around, because this is getting embarrassing for Kimi and the team.
How so? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
More like 7 or 8/10ths in the early going dawg! :mark: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Lewis is the only teammate that was as talented as Fred in F1 in his entire career. Now that kimi is proving to be useless as a eunuch (just kidding :p:) it puts Felipe Baggie in a slightly better light. As Felipe always contended, he was over his injury but no match for Fred in equal machinery. It appears so far that at this point in his career either is Kimi. Sorry dawgs Fred is just that good. Kimi will come around and beat Fred in the odd race maybe, but he is not as dynamic of a racer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
I think you're missing a point here, though. Alonso is someone who can manage to drive a dog and still put in some good results, which is a talent he doesn't have with many drivers. Kimi, however, has been complaining about his difficulties to drive the Ferrari, which must have had an effect on his (very significant) gap to Alonso. Had the car been handling better (and more to Kimi's liking), it certainly wouldn't be such a one-sided contest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
:D Well its true. Its not 6 tenths is it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Despite what anyone says and whether people like him. Fact is fact.
Fred is awesome.
There some from the team and some from Kimi to sort out but, Kimi will be back.
Only in the last race. There was certainly no 6/10ths at the season opener or at Bahrain. There was only a couple tenths after all those laps, and that was after the almost punt at the first corner. But without a doubt Fred is beating him fair and square. Except for a briefly non functional DRS at the season opener, Kimi has had the same car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
As for Lewis I agree he is one of the only that can match Fred in an outright dogfight. But then again if we go by a single season, Lewis punked Fred. No tenths came in second! :)
And Fred is trying hard, but I do have one serious question regarding the team. Who was the last driver to win a WDC in a Ferrari? :laugh:
All in fun Tazsrubrochangesnamesalot. Fred is driving his tail off, and if Kimi doesn't up the game it will make him look bad. I guess the ones that will really suffer are the team, since they hired him back. I remember when most thought Kimi would never return to F1, then most thought he had no chance at going back to Ferrari.
:stareup: yes air' I am having a little fun resurrecting this thread, but the reason I come on this forum is to have fun, and not take it too seriously. ;)
Kimi is very fast, last night I re-watched the 2005 San Marino GP and he was shot out of a cannon in that race only to have his McLaren go kaput early on, which is only one example of his talent. I do think the main difference between him and Zo at this point in their careers is that Fred is more adaptable ,and Kimi is devastating when the car really suits him. I do hope he ups his game because I don't pull against him. I just like to keep things in perspective :dog:
That point was not lost on me, as i was trying to point out that Fred is a more complete driver with slightly less limitations than the kimster.Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
On a separate note, I don't think my pm's are working, as I haven't been able to send messages for a while. To answer the question of your message; Mark will take care of that change if you message him!!
Kimi's lack of performance is exactly what I expected from him. He moans and sulks and complains non-stop, what he needs to do is stop whinging about everything and get his head down and work things out. You can almost guarantee that in practice in Spain there will be one Ferrari up on jacks with either the front end, back end, or both off the car because 'something' is not right, and you can almost guarantee it will be the car with a small number 7 on it.
If only Ferrari could turn the clock back six months and sign Hulkenberg instead.
Kimi's agent has confirmed Raikkonen is to become a father after months of speculation. I wonder if this means Kimi will be leaving F1 after 2015 or perhaps before? He always said he would have children after his F1 career because he wouldn't want to be away from them. Good luck to him, its more rewarding than any race win ;)
henners yeah lets keep telling ourselves that :p: