:devil: Ogier and VW looks too fast for others!
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:devil: Ogier and VW looks too fast for others!
Seriously quick on the splits thus far!! So those saying it's already a foregone conclusion - will Seb be so far ahead first on the road for Sunday won't matter?Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
NZ has never run a shakedown "round a car park". They ran a shakedown on a tarmac road that ran through and around a central city garden park. It's called bringing the sport to the people and was very successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
People throwing stones to Latvala's car. How about some crowd control in Spain?!
Are You joking? Do You actually know what is the meaning of shakedown? If they want to run a stage through the town they can do it as regular stage or as a prologue with no times measured (as some IRC/ERC events had). Shakedown is for something else...Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
rallyradio working for you?
edit your post because i never wrote something like this. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
sometimes ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by satukata
The organisers don't understand the first thing about crowd control and how to marshal rallies. The teenager spectators have a high percentage of 'stoners' (no pun intended) who will be taking their Sordo enthusiasm too far!! From personal experience nice scenery / crap organisationQuote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
:bounce: Good start for Mikko! only 0,2s from Neuvilles time. Mikko hope to stay near 2 days and attack on gravel
wtf????????????
[SS1] Jari-Matti Latvala (Volkswagen) 11:26.7 "It was a good start, a good feeling with the car. The spectators were throwing stones at the windscreen of the car, fortunately there is not much damage. I don't like these things, people need to remember that there are people in the car when they throw the stones."
Not good :hmph:
Ostberg lost 1.11 s/km, slower than Paddon - not impressive.
Good start for paddon!!
Paddon faster than Mads in his first proper ss in WRC car! Let's see how is he doing on the next stages.
And Kubica with RRC is much faster against his only rival for the WRC-2 title who is driving this rally with WRC car.
[SS1] Hayden Paddon (Ford) 11:45.2 " Struggling with the braking points, a lot of understeer in the corners which is a little un-nerving. Just trying to get a feeling for it all."
Looks like there is more to come
It is nice comparison of two leaders of WRC-2 - both Kubica and Al-Kuwari in WRC and Kubica is much faster :dork:
Kubica faster than all 3 Al-Moneybacks
Kubica is in RRC. It actually shows again that rules of WRC2 are weird when Al Kuwari can fight for the title...Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Neuville looks slow?
Radio seems to be cutting in and out.Quote:
Originally Posted by satukata
How much night driving experience Thierry has?
Ok, car park or around a park, it still doesn't represent the stages, so where is the point? I always thought Shakedown was to do any final adjustments to the setup of the cars? How can this be done on tarmac for a gravel rally?Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Take the sport to the people with a Super Special/ Mickey mouse stage through a town, but not on shakedown, otherwise it makes itself pointless by running in the first place.
Anyway the splits are working quiet OK for the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Quite a lot, night stages have been common part of IRC/ERC and Belgian championship as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
Emphasis on the past tense. As rules stand now - drivers are required to do minimum of four passes - shakedown is mainly first action shot photo opportunity for the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Novikovs glowing disc after ss1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXcbeFLIMAA8wX7.jpg:large
Ah, mister Mirek, we meet again. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So lack of experience doesn't explain Thierry's lack of pace. What does, then?
Al-Mutawaa with DS3 R3 is faster than any of the WRC-2 Mitsubishi drivers!
Yes, radio cutting all the time... :mad:
Not much I think. In Monte 2012 the route has night stages but Thierry was already out, in Portugal same year when Loeb has his off the stage was also in darkness. I can't really remember many other night stages excluding the sss in Mexico.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
PS. I mean WRC rallys
Which is fundamentally wrong. The factory teams who can afford their own testing are only a fraction of the event entries. Without the rest the event could not be held in most of cases but nobody cares about them too often. Many of those private teams need shakedown to set the car or at least to get the right feeling from driving after a long pause. What is most important most of private teams can not test with proper WRC tyres before shakedown. It's a case of even big private teams. For example last year in Monte Carlo co-driver of Prokop told me they were given right WRC tyres only before shakedown! Nobody gave them the tyres for testing, they gave them only to works teams...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
You are wrong. Unlike WRC the IRC and Belgian championship had run night stages as a quite common thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
Doesn't that come from the rally itself.....action shots? Ironically, if they are looking for action shots they should run the shakedown on a proper stage, with proper scenery! Not round a car park/town park/stadium. Can't be long before there is a shakedown on a racing circuit at this rate! Rally GB at Oulton Park for 2014, take it back to the people lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
[SS2] Thierry Neuville (Ford) 12:49.2 Through next, 8.8-seconds down on Ogier "Its not working at all, I have done it once before in 2009 but not in WRC (car). They all know the stage quite well, I struggle in the dark, I struggle with the settings, I cannot do more."
Yes, I mean WRC rallys doesn't speak about IRC and Belgian championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
If you follow how teams' media sites cumulate pictures, you'll note that first (action) pictures are from shakedown. As these are used to illustrate the news stories, average joe doesn't notice the difference from actual rally. Indeed, he even doesn't wonder how they have action shots before rally has started.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
And what is the difference? The talk was about night driving. Is the night in WRC events darker? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rage82
Kubica is on another level. He's taking the p*ss in WRC2 again. Why after half a season Citroen didn't just put him in a WRC i'll never know.
So darkness does play a factor after all. Thought so...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv