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I eat my words. Superstar! Incredible lap. That's 3-0 in qualifying to Hammy!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
At least you have dignity to admit you were wrong.
Rosberg couldn't deliver in Q3 again. Even though his race pace has been fine so far this year, so we will see. In 2011-12 it was the opposite - fast in quali, but dropping off in the race.
However, people have the ability to learn and this is now a big lesson for Rosberg. For a long time he hasn't been paired with someone that fast on Saturdays - the days of Webber as a team-mate are almost forgotten. The speed of Hamilton can be shocking for him. This is the time to dig deep and bounce back. This is the big lesson and task to learn to deliver in crucial moments.
I remember back in 2003 Trulli was probably shocked to see Alonso being that fast straightaway. Jarno was struggling initially, but got his act together and gave the Spaniard a run for his money.
^ It's a strange situation that Lewis can be so dominant in qualy yet the tyres seem to remove any outright pace advantage he has over Nico on race day and with the joke soft tyres even making sitting out Q3 a viable strategy option... what a messed up state F1 is in right now!
Pirelli really need to get their act together, otherwise employing the very quickest drivers and even having a qualy session is almost pointless. Why can't they just produce a tyre with good longevity that doesn't disadvantage the quickest drivers by forcing everyone to drive at nine tenths?... is it to do with safety? It's peeing me right off!
Tires, tires and tires.....
I kind of like the current situation in F1. The tires just makes the whole enchilada even more unpredictable.
Very hard to guess the outcome of weekend.
Ferrari seem suitable for this track, yet Merc are fastest, and the lotuses are up there with Seb having an all together diff strategy.
What about the weather?
I freakin love it.
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Originally Posted by P3ws
If I wanted to watch "strategery" I would turn on game of thrones
I want to watch F1 cars compete with at least 80% of their capability.
As it stands now, Qualy is a joke, tires are a lottery and cars are driving out there compromised for at least 3/4 of the race
If they are going to have joke tires then they have to give the teams something back, like the opportunity to select their own fuel strategy
This is like watching a 1500m race in the olympics with runners wearing shoes that fall apart if they go too fast so we watch them walk around a bit, others jog for a lap or two, while yet others employing different strategies. Then crowning the guy who finishes first as the best runner.
I've not been too critical of the tires up to this point, but Pirelli were bound to make the wrong selection at some point ( I wonder what their criteria are?) and it has culminated with disastrous effect here in China. Unless there is something wrong with your car, you should be required to set a representative time. And tires that fall off after 5 laps in a 56 lap race are ridiculous- made even worse because they are worn and already have 3 laps on them now compounded with heavy fuel load. :down:
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What he said
Those softs make a mockery of F1 at the moment.
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Originally Posted by truefan72
I agree completely.
I've always been pretty critical of Pirelli. They hinder the out and out pace of the fastest drivers. Lewis is the prime example, unbelievably quick but completely stunted by these ridiculous Pirelli tires so much that any outright pace advantage is negated by having to nurse home the tires. Drivers are limited to the speed the tire can cope with opposed to their own outright pace. I watch F1 for the racing. This weekend in China was absolutely stupid having tires that fall apart after 5 or 6 laps. Mark Webber is completely right, it's all too WWF now. Too much about the show and not enough about the quality of the racing. There is a balance to be struck and it's not being struck right now.
I would also like to see refuelling back as I believe that provided true proper strategy. This limping around on rubber that doesn't last needs to stop.
Another thing that has to change is DRS. Stupid thing that should be abolished. It doesn't add to racing and drivers are sitting ducks with it.
Not that the dwarf gives a **** about what we're thinking, but we should petition to kick Pirelli the **** out of F1, they should never be allowed to get anywhere near ever again.
Well, the pattern seems to be that Rosberg is quick when it doesnt matter (practice) but when he needs to, Hamilton does the business.
pirelli are instructed by the FIA to provide these tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
I wouldnt mind Pirelli in F1. If they had free reign to construct a decent and fast range of racing tyres and maybe were in a tyre war. As it is I dont agree with whoever is instructing how the tyres are to be constructed.
Why does Pirrelli continue?? This must be damaging their reputation??Quote:
Originally Posted by faster69
how? you'd have to be pretty stupid if you thought pirelli road tyres would disintegrate after 20 miles because the soft f1 tyres do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
Australia - Car fails in race.
Malaysia - Divine intervention from Ross Brawn prevents him from passing Hamilton for 3rd.
China - Car fails in race again.
There won't be a battle if it continues like this.
Does it matter? I'll be hanging dead over someone's fence before I ever nail Pirelli's to my car, just because the idiots ruined my favourite sport. I don't give a **** about thir road tires. They ****ed up my favourite sport,so no penny from me for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by faster69
Im sure theyre holding a shareholders meeting as we speak because theyve lost your custom :D
seriosly, this is down to the FIA. You might just as well blame a fuel company if you put Petrol in your Diesel car by mistake.
I know that they don't give a flying **** about me, but all it takes is a few tens of thousands people and Pirelli will have a serious dent in the sales. I'm an atheist, but i'd be willing to pray if that's what it takes to get rid of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Yeah he has been pretty unlucky to be fair. He had the chance to show is worth in qualifying yesterday though and he didn't do it. I don't buy that missing on P3 could have hurt him that much. He was miles away from Hamilton. It does seem like Hammy is getting his **** together and he looked much more comfortable in the car this weekend than the previous two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranger
Is there an inter team battle between the driver in Mercedes?
IMO it would make a lot more sense to pray to the FIA to give Pirelli instructions (or permission more likely) to produce a better tire for F1. I'd also seriously doubt that even those angry with the tire options given would hold it against the FIA. Though it has produced some good racing, I'd prefer they have Pirelli provide 4 or 5 tires, all of various compounds, and let the teams figure it out from there. And I'd want all the tires to at a minimum to last for say 15-20 HARD laps driven at the limit. I'd also toss the requirement to use more than one compound in a race.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Lol calm down buddy. Pirelli is one of the best things to have ever happened to F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Perhaps you'd rather have everyone split back on Bridgestone and Michelin again? With massive performance gaps, and the result of a race completely dependent on the track temperature (i.e. Michelin being unbelievable in the heat, and utter dogsh!t once it cooled down).
The only thing Pirelli REALLY needs to do is to produce a monsoon tyre, so we dont have to watch a safety car procession each time it gets a bit wet.
How utterly ridiculous. You are a marketers dream!Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
I think it is laughable how your blame is being targeted towards a manufacturer who is delivering a product to a brief asking for faster degradation. If you base your preference of road tyres on what you seeing happening in Formula One, then I think that is very amusing.
If anything, Pirelli should be being praised for their great ability to produce tyres EXACTLY how their customer (in this case the FIA/FOM) wants. If you are going to hate on the tyres in F1 (which, as I've said is stupid), hate the customer not the maker.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Jeez, calm down asterisk king. Vettel, Rosberg and Mercedes, and Germany as a whole will be fine eventually. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
On a more serious note, Lewis seems to be going backwards during races at the beginning of a season, as evidenced by last year and this year. Hopefully sooner rather than later him and Merc will hit the sweet spot with their setup and start having stronger races. I would bet on Lewis winning Canada for sure. Still, two podiums in a row is a great result.
Anyway, how Lewis and Merc are performing now is WAY above many people's expectations. In hindsight, folks predicting last year that Lewis was gonna struggle in the midfield and Jenson and Mclaren were gonna win the championship, seems so funny now. :p
I believe Hamilton always has two to three tenths in hand for qualifying, especially Q3, and he doesn't show his hand until the final few minutes usually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Indeed. Hamilton is on top form and Mercedes have a little bit of work to do as Brawn admitted. The cars one lap pace is on the button but straight line speed seems to be lacking as seen yesterday. Still, its not the disaster so far that a fair few people hoped it would be. Lewis made up for the fuel woes in Malaysia by outperforming Rosberg for much of the weekend. I'm looking forward to a close battle between these two as I think Nico can take it to Hamilton more often than not.
I think Hamilton's strongest races are yet to come, and I also think Mercedes/Brackley will step up their game. It's easy to get behind a driver and give him your full support when you know that he will extract the maximum out of the car and your efforts won't go wasted.
I'd agree with that but Hamilton seems to be hitting a sweet spot now with the car based on this weekend and Rosberg was nowhere near him in qualifying, which actually really surprised me as I regards Rosberg as one of the best qualifiers I have ever seen. Much like Rosberg to Schumacher last year, the currently points tally doesn't really reflect the true story and it has been much closer than the points table suggests.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Next weekend in Bahrain will be interesting to see what will happen and whether Hamilton's qualifying dominance will continue to that weekend as China was the first GP where I was actually convinced he was genuinely quicker than Nico and considering how good NIco is on that track it really surprised me.
Of course. Nico has retired from two out of the three races so he has lost points obviously. Had he finished those races it would show a truer picture apart from a third place Nico really should have had in Malyasia IMO. Hamilton has put his car where it needs to be in qualifying so far which has made the difference in a car that is not quite at the front when long stints are factored in.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
I see it differently. I thought Malaysia was the only race of the three where Nico showed he deserved to finish ahead of Lewis. In Oz Nico retired and after being outqualified by his new team mate. Nico shows sporadic fast pace but as has been said he needs to channel this in Q3 too. Being faster than your team mate at certain points during the race was what was often said about Button, but it needs to work consistently.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
Bahrain will be a test because its an aero track and allows a driver to show outright pace, especially in qualifying. I expect Lewis and Nico to be close here and lets hope for another Mercedes pole at he very least. I think the track will suit Red Bull and Ferrari as shown in previous years however so I think its a bit early for a Mercedes win.
agreed. The blame falls 90% on F1/FIA and 10% on pirelli, because at the end of the day they do choose which compounds to bring.Quote:
Originally Posted by webberf1
But they got it right at the end iof their first year when tires were lasting pretty long.
OK
Back to Hamilton/Rosberg
As it stands 3-0 hamilton
Although I am rooting for Hamilton, I don;t want to see rosberg retire from races or loiter down the grid. If Hamilton is to make a title challenge he will need Rosberg to take points away from his competitors. and perhaps even but up there fighting for podiums and more himself. no matter what folks think. The best thing for Vettel over the past 3 years has been webber. Without him, he would have probably only won 1 championship. Not so much because of team orders, but more so by his own wins and ensuring that he inflicted damage to the other title challengers with race wins and high finishes himself.
thankfully we only have 4 days before we find out :DQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I'm guilty on that one... but happy to be. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Are Mercs/Lewis's tyre deg issues more to do with the car setup or Lewis's driving style. If we look at Lewis's qualy performance it seems that he has a large pace advantage over Rosberg over a single lap in max attack mode yet there possibly are early signs that Nico's set-up and/or measured race pace and/or superior ability to care for the tyres to be more effective on race day. Is this most likely to be car setup differences between both of them or Lewis's natural attacking driving style being less suited to the latest incarnation of uber-fragile Pirellis?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Lewis outqualified the car and a testament to how great he is over a single lap. Over a race the car is there or there abouts so going backwards is somewhat inevitable considering tyre issues. Senna had similar feats and problem in Lotus.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
Last year bad start in Australia, beaten by JB in China, then tyre lottery and shoddy pit stops and still quicker than JB - that and reliability cost Lewis WDC rather being beaten by team mate every now and then.
Not guilty your Honour. I predicted Lewis would be right up there and Mercedes will be challenging for podiums and a couple of wins back in November. Right on course at the moment :DQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainRaiden
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With such well thought out posts like that, I am sure there are thousands, if not millions, willing to follow you.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Rosberg 0.3 tenths ahead of Hammy in almost every lap thus far. I see a pattern forming here for sure. If Hamilton pulls it out in qualifying again I think it's a sign it could well be like this for the coming year, though Rosberg is bound to out qualify him eventually. Interesting weekend ahead! It will tell a lot more about the pairing again I think.