Of course, it's not just the driver but if he has least points of three despite starting on highest number of rallies, the problem is in the driver. This discussion about so obvious thing is pointless so that I will not continue repeating myself.
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Of course, it's not just the driver but if he has least points of three despite starting on highest number of rallies, the problem is in the driver. This discussion about so obvious thing is pointless so that I will not continue repeating myself.
Petter didn't crash as much as a privateer because he was paying the bills. With M-Sport paying the repair bills he pushed harder to beat Loeb fact.
Why did he finished 3rd in 2010 as a privateer??Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Repair bills? it usually was the 5 pund part "front cross member" okay that is prob 10 000 pund part if you are a privateer :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Padowa
83 replays in couple of days... I looks like if Petter becomes 85 years old and he crashes in all the races he partizipates when he is still 84, then there will be another similar thread.. Petter need one more proper chanche! OMG!
Markko told something like this once.. When you are not able to become WC in fisrt couple of years as a factory driver then there is very little hope that you ever will.
Look back ti the history.
1. Solberg was Champion in 2003.. after that.. 9 years of trying
2. Burns became Champion in 2001. after that.. some trying but no more success + cruel fait (R.I.P)
3. Gronholm was Champion in 2000 and 2002.. after that.... some years of trying but no more success
4. Mäkinen was Champion 1996-1999.. after that.. some years of trying but no more success
5. McRae was Champion in 1995.. after that.. many years of trying but no more success (R.I.P)
6.. The list continues as it started..
Well then we can hope that Latvala and Hirvonen will soon leave WRC 'cos they'te in works teams for years and didn't succeed. :D
Ford did lots of weird tactiks this year, i think that also count alot for both Petter and jml, as they try to do the best of it after the (team) error.
I didn´t say that. But Petter still has the speed in a whole rally to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Well, Colin didn´t have the speed when he competed last years. Not like Petter whom still has speed to win. For sure he has had his peak. But will still be remembered as the man he was, even competing in 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Pfff. If this rule must be obeyed, WRC 2013 factory drivers should be only Loeb, Tanak, Neuville, Al Attyah and... Nobre. Now I think Loeb has chance for 10th title with doing 4 Rallies :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I just have to jump in here and agree with you :pQuote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
My guess is he'll end up doing more events than expected when they see he can actually be champion.
Agree too. I don't think they could make Loeb move over for Mikko to be honest.
Marvellous, Citroen have a team of joint No2s!!! Their natural destiny is to move over when told - will we see them both booking in to TC early to let each other go first? After the Loeb Monte win (come on can anyone see any other result?) he will watch Citroen struggle to stay with whichever Polo performs best on the event. The only thing that will bring Loeb back earlier then Germany is if the VW team aren't in 1-2 position already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
What I'm really looking forward to is the future "Loeb comeback" once he sees Ogier is getting waaaaay too much attention from the French media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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I hamfistedly tried to raise this issue a week ago and screwed-up on my post. Who will the French get behind Citrioen or Ogier ?
lololololQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
yes Loeb is a person who is searching for attention from media.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Antony Warmbold
Petter blaming Patterson.Hope its not truth...
Autonews Magazine » Rallye international WRC » Pas très élégant le Petter
@Dimvii, it's from a magazine with a good reputation, they don't publish rubbish news.
I'll translate his quote:
“Jusqu’au milieu de la saison, je me battais devant. Je suis déçu de ma deuxième moitié de saison. Et les résultats des trois dernières épreuves, en partie à cause de mon copilote et un peu de ma faute, ont complètement gâché les statistiques…”
"Until the middle of the season, I was battling in front. I'm disappointed about my second half of the season. And the results of the last three events, partly caused by my codriver and a bit my fault, have completely ruined the statistics..."
Not really nice from him... It's not the codriver who creates a puncture by deciding to throw the car completley sideways 15m before a fast corner while it's not neccesary... Also the notes are made up by the driver, Chris Patterson has to read them. Was there any case where Petter crashed this year because a note was being read wrong or too late?
Eeeeh, Peter, Peter....
Not nice but in France it was a co-driver error, and there was another rally where Chris said 'cut' instead of 'don't cut' which led to a puncture. Still think it's a bit wrong to blame the co-driver but there is at least a small amount supporting the moan!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Well, that looks like Chris will be looking for a new seat next year! How to dismantle a reputation in 4 easy stages (SS1 Spain, SS1 Sardinia, SS1 France, SS1 Germany..... and yes I know that these were not necessarily the stages he had problems on but it is meant to be humour!)
Counts for your time in the forum as well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
True...LOL ..... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Do you know he is not allowed to beat factory DS3 in a customer DS3. So his best chance is being in a Ford.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanosB
Honestly, I have no idea why Solberg got a factory seat to begin with this year. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire for a while now.
Maybe because for 2 seasons he was the most successful privateer, and got podiums through pace alone when other drivers were nowhere near. Who else would/could Ford have hired last season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
He should have a seat for the simple reason that there are minimal other options out there.
Although he is defiantly past his prime the guy is still fast enough, which is probably due to the way the WRC has been operating win the last 10+ years in regard to young drivers.
There was a good reason he got the seat, well, actually 1 million good reasons...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
@Noel157: I hope he has another 1 million reasons in his pocket now. Is there even a slim change he could get something with Prodrive?
On a certain level, I suppose Ford were just making the best of a bad situation. Tanak, Novikov and Ostberg weren't ready to join the works teams just yet, and there wasn't really anyone else who could fill in the gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Yep, hope he can buy seat somewhere, Prodrive or M-Sport don't do charity/give seats, it's all business these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Unless of course Citroen Norway do something or DR manages to find a large sponsor or Petter gathers a group of backers together but after his last private effort that would be difficult.
I'm sure he's still got plenty of his Subaru pay-off money left so if he could put aside his pride he could be sitting on the start ramp at RMC.
OMG. Tell me please, when will Mads, Evgeny or Ott be ready to join the works team? After first title? After second title? In 2056? When?Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisoner Monkeys
Well, in fact... Tanak never drove a WRC-car before this year. And be honest, Evgeny Novikov has never shown much consistency before this year, something that improved a lot this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsara Fan
For next year I completely agree with you. ;)
Actually Tanak drove D-Mack Fiesta WRC in GB 2011, and did quite well. But one can't judge from just one Rally :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Exactly, you shouldn't make decisions based on one event, that's gambling...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Ogier did very good in Wales 2008, but in the 2009 season it showed that he still lacked a lot of experience with a WRC-car.
Novikov's consistency happened the moment Denis Giraudet started co-driving him and has continued despite the injury to Denis. It seems he now 'gets it'.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B