I just count the number as have a mention of favourite rallies on this thread. I hope I got it right. :)
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I just count the number as have a mention of favourite rallies on this thread. I hope I got it right. :)
Good job OldF! Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
For the ones who don't understand why I like Mille Miglia so much, my photo gallery from 2006 :)
=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=1428]Mille 2006
I personally would prefer Mille Miglia over San Remo. As for IRC Sliven Bulgaria Rally, after what happened with Eurosport coverage, I don't think it is it's place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
What happened with Eurosport coverage? I wasn't following IRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
This is the bizarre thing, there wasn't any. There are rumors of some disagreement between our federation & Eurosport, but only rumors I don't know details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
PitstopTV presented by Peter Baert who's doing freelance jobs at Eurosport had already this weekend a review of IRC Sliven (Eurosport images).
Never heard of itQuote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Maybe an admin or moderator could create a poll on what rallies the users in here would like to se in ERC in 2013?Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
First we have to decide how many votes are possible per person, what means we also have to decide how may rounds should be in ERC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Probably not because it's only viewable in Belgium.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Thanks Jarek. I got curious to see how it looks if the “votes” on this thread were consolidated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Jänner Rallye 1-3 / 01 / 2013 will be first round of ERC! They made the contract!
Jänner Rallye confirmed:
http://www.ir7.at/content/erc_orm_au...allye_2013.php
http://www.ir7.at/j131.jpg
You mean 03-05/01/2013Quote:
Originally Posted by werner
Yes ... :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
If Ypres not IN, many things going wrong ... but the big question is, HOW MANY events will count for ERC? I dont think FIA watch this site where many people agree with 10 ...
Interessting from Eurosport Events:
Q & A: Eurosport on IRC/ERC plan - IRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
I guess more 28-29th June ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Hmm, combination of gravel and snow said Mr. Ribeiro...it means two winter rallies. Janner is first and Rally Kurzeme in Latvia or Arctic rally Lapland is the second one. What is the current situation with rally Kurzeme, boys? Anybody knows? As I said in czech rally-forum I vote for gravel, I vote for snow, but surface on Kurzeme in winter is 2 cm of snow and wet gravel which I am not really interested in. I pray for some REAL winter rally. Fingers crossed for that. Anyway I have got bad feeling from that sentence "combination of gravel and snow" :-(
Tough event it would be. Mud, mud and more mud.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
“The FIA wants to turn the WRC more global and focus on car manufacturers while the ERC will remain Euro-centric, cost-efficient and dedicated to teams.
We therefore see no conflict of interest between both championships and we are committed to avoiding any clash of dates.”
François Ribeiro (Eurosport)
When you start a project saying that there’ll be no conflict of interest with existing organizations you’re obviously admitting that such conflict is likely to happen!
With a specially manufacturers designed category (R5), a large scale calendar (at least 12 events) disputed over the rallysport main continent (Europe) and the full commitment of a strong media organization (Eurosport), it’s quite clear that this new IRC (under the ERC badge) won’t be a 2nd level rally series dedicated to teams, and eventually will become a WRC rival championship.
So, from 2014 (2013 ERC season will be a transitional one, before the R5 full entry) we'll have 2 major FIA international rally series fighting each other for manufacturers involvement and TV audiences...
Strange? Maybe not. Odd things has happen to rallysport so many times before that it seems there’s always a twisted way to ensure F1 undisputed motor racing lead!
Eurosport as I can see are already "out" announcing details about their plans for the promotion of the ERC etc.
on the other side did anyone see similar movements from Red Bull media house or however is called about the promotion of the WRC? I did not see even a press release from them as if they were forced to take on that job.
maybe Arganil you are right and FIA will end up with a conflict between ERC - WRC. Hope I´m wrong but the quiteness from the new WRC promotion side makes me wondering...
Actually "Rally Kurzeme" has never been on snow. "Combination of gravel and mud" - i think Mr.Ribeiro predict a most worst scenario in a case of very poor winter. Usually in February there is a quite solid snow layer and tempreture around minus 5-7 degrees. Weather is tending to be very changeable though.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
Maybe there should be "something like" new event with combination of gravel and snow? :rolleyes:
Motorsport News newspaper reports in Tweeter:
Circuit of Ireland to get spot on 2013 European #Rally Championship calendar. Full calendar in today's MN
Poland last days in October and Cyprus after few days?
I think it's a mistake. It's the last days of September.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartek
No tarmac rally in Italy? Why expensive Azores? Why boring Cyprus? I won't event try to comment Sibiu.
Looks like again the decision was made with money... I still hope the final calendar will be very different.
What is boring about Cyprus?
Everything?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That old good Cyprus from "WRC" times was very tough and difficult, very tough but also very beautiful stages...this new Cyprus is shortest rally from all in IRC and quality of the stages isn´t also very high....there are lot of rallies in Europe with better stages, organizers, better infrastructure, better...everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
The Cyprus Rally last year looked pretty nice on the live coverage.
Azores is not so expensive if the organiser pays for the ferry. It's a beautiful event and I'm glad to see it in.
Live coverage was good indeed. Hope to see a nice pack of drivers next year.
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Are we speaking about the same event? The IRC Cyprus was an amazing rally with beautiful mixed stages like in the old days, with very special entries compared to other events (mixed with MERC) and with very nice fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
IRC Cyprus Rally 2011 (Cyprus) - SS3 live coverage (FullHD) - YouTube
How can anyone find such a beautiful mixed stage like this boring?
The organization pays the ferry, the trip and the stay. Expensive is for the fans. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
There is no problem only with the money, very big problem is the time... Cars are very long on the trip from garage to island and back...
I agree that the WRC version of Cyprus rally had some very slow and tough stages that would not appeal to the competitors but some stages produced some very nice and dramatic videos/photos.
But the IRC version as Mirek said is totally different. They share some stages 1 or 2 at max. Last year's live Eurosport coverage was brilliant, the mountain stages make the helicam footage very fascinating.
IRC is different, but still too expensive. Cars are heavy damaged after the race and costs with travelling to island are veeeeeeeery expensive (for same price as ferry to Cyprus you should do one czech rallysprint event with WRC car)...
I am amazed that they decided to include Sibiu and nothing in Italy. This year's Sibiu event was frankly awful to watch - all the IRC website videos (except for Mikkelsen out in front) were of dust, dust and more dust!
And why have Sibiu and Croatia instead of ohhhh I don't know.... only the Sanremo, 1000 Miglia or Targa Florio?!!! Not that I'm bad mouthing Croatia - it's just the wide roads don't seem anything like the challenge of the (relatively) narrow mountain passes of those three Italian classics.
Let's hope that this year's schedule (if it remains exactly the same as now) is just a stop gap until Eurosport and various event organisers have time to get their rallies on the ERC schedule. That having been said, if Eurosport won't include either Sanremo, 1000 Miglia or Targa this year when they are all already on the ERC or IRC schedules what hope do they have of then being included for 2014?
The one shred of hope I have is that one of them (I personally prefer Sanremo) is gearing up to replace Sardinia on the WRC schedule after 2013 - there seemed to be some uncertainty this year about whether it would remain or Targa Florio would take over and next year the date for Italy is rather conveniently a similar weekend to when TF would take place....
Rant over :p