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They did 7,2 billion Dollars profit last year. Don't underestimate them...
I'm highly doubt about that car's performance
It's a thoroughly new challenge for them, so they need some proper advice from experienced driver
but there's nothing about the rumor of driver's line-up
dimvii this is a special presentation for some people. Because its recorded yesterday before the opening of PMS. Today is press day. Original presentation is today at 17.00 CET. that will be huge i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
didn t know that,so we have to wait to see the today press day.By the way the i20 they showed was a normal car with aero and rims.Underside was a normal car,and even the brakes were on gravel spec diameter with asphalt wheels.Quote:
Originally Posted by aykutbilir
hope to announce their programm,who designed the car etc.
Michel Nandan formerly of Toyota, Peugeot and Suzuki is the designer / chief techo.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Nothing interesting during the press conference :( Just a very short video with a car on gravel... Nothing about the car, the staff, the drivers, the events, ...
How sad?! WRC has new manufacturer. :P
You're right !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
so what did they said?Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
Interesting sound, not like current wrc cars...
I´m waiting for ALL the experts to conclude how it will perform. Based on this video...
Seems like a lot left to do.... presenting a kind of replica only.... :(
Hyundai´s World Rally Car era so far:
http://rallyparadise.wordpress.com/2...h-the-i20-wrc/
Looks like the Hyundai WRC development will take place both in Korea and Europe. How much development has been done in Korea so far?
“It will be a completely in-house Hyundai team...we will be based in the Frankfurt area in Germany...yet to finalise those arrangements...a lot of the development will take place in Korea in Namyang at our R&D centre, but then making the car competitive enough to compete in WRC will then be handled primarily by our European staff team in and around the Frankfurt area."
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better they spent the money on developing the car first, then in big pr ;)
the wheels in the video look pretty small, don´t they?
anyway, tha car looks great and i´m happy we have another proper manufacturer. 2013 is going to be great and 2014 even better!
I guess Hyundai use there own in house test drivers that they use for the road cars.
Where has Henning been this year ? It is like he has fallen into a black hole.
Kenneth Eriksson used to do a bit of testing.
Is Meeke able to test for other manufacturers other than Mini ?
Yeah, I dont think meeke has a contract with mini anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humber
Henning Solberg? Are you guys serious? Move on, he was never that great in the WRC at his peak!
I would have someone like Ostberg with an up and coming SWRC charger in the second seat.
Henning as a test driver. Who has M-Sport used as a test driver in recent years ?
Matthew Wilson
Breen has allegedly tested the peugeot 208 for 5000 kms.
Atko could be a possible wheelman for the Hyundai.
If there aren´t any "big" guns available (Sordo and maybe Östberg) then it is time for a fresh start and give the seats to guys that haven´t had their chance in the big league yet. Filling the lineup with the likes of Henning makes it look as convincing as MINI Motorsport Italia/Viva Tourism Agency of Brazil and such.
Henning and aroujo is probably at same level, but to draw comperations to nobre to these others is just rude..... :) I'm quite sure neighter Henning or aroujo has shown theire real potensial, but Henning is getting to old, but maybe a good choice as a testdriver? The best skilled mechanic in the wrc by far.
No-one can match Nobre, not even Henning. Maybe testing-wise he could be some use but IMO the actual competing lineup (#1 and #2) needs to be something "fresher" than guys who peaked some 5-10 years ago, in mid-level. I hope that at least the 2nd car goes to someone who hasn´t yet had his chance in the big league (Hänninen, Paddon and so on).
Why should Huyndai start to be the MRNice guy to the sport bringing upnewcomers for drives?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
No, if they are serious they will hire at least one documentedly good driver for testing and then for sure a top driver as #1. Then in second seat maybe one of the youngguns who has been in IRC or done a couple of seasons in WRC.
No charity is expected.
Let us first see how serious there effort is....
Hiring new talents isn't charity. It's investment. After Loeb leaves WRC, has 3-4 top guns and it wouldn't be surprising if they aren't so interested in Hyundai. Sure Hyundai needs some experience as well. When Peogeot hired Grönholm he was still basically unproven talent. Hänninen was basically unknown when he joined Skoda. Where the heck Citroen found Ogier? It's very much possible that Hyundai or any other new team won't get a top gun unless they "make" him themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I beg to differQuote:
Originally Posted by mikkov
That's very good question. The French have very well working talent searching system through popular one-make cups held with small cars. Ogier came from this kind of competition among dozens of young drivers (I think Loeb too). If You follow that at least a bit You can expect who could be next. I would bet we will hear about names like Gilbert, Bonnefis, Lefevbre in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikkov
Sure. I'm a Finn and I had basically forgotten him until he started winning IRC rallies. I probably hadn't even heard about IRC until then. For me he was best known for wearing underwear the wrong way. Winning something in PWRC is nothing my opinion. As said these are my opinions only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Not that I'm generally interested in how guys wore their pants, but that was Urmo Aava. Hänninen had wrong pants on. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mikkov
Well this was about beeing "basically unknown when he joined Skoda", Hänninen was not to bad with the WRC 05 (but the car was). Often fastest when he turned up with an gr.N car, and his first IRC win where in an Peugeot... And yes, some DSQ'sQuote:
Originally Posted by mikkov
But we are a bit off topic maybe... :)
Don't forget Hyundai will probably want to have a VW Year of testing so whoever they hire will be prepared not to be in competition at all for that period of time. That may narrow the list somewhat.
Best wishes to Hyundai on this WRC comeback! Hope Nandan will have better conditions than last WRC tryout with Suzuki.
yes hopefully! the sx4 was really crap. but when you take a look back, suzuki had lindholm as a testdriver. shurely a great driver in national championchip but to get on top in wrc you need someone else. for asphalt testing they could get duval as a test driver(noone was faster then him on asphalt, you can tell what you want!), damn i still would love to have him a comeback :) a great testdriver also could be grönholm.
for the driver lineup my first choice would be sordo. he is shurely also a very good testdriver. and i still think that andersson and atkinson are very good drivers, they could have a chance in my opinion. also hänninen is very good, even on apshalt, but still sticks with skoda. so is mikkelsen, he could be a very good choice. also linked to vw and skoda yet, but who knows. he is still very, very young (only 23 years old, sounds weired to me, because he´s around for so long already, i took notice of him in 2007 first time). östberg also started to convince me this season i must say. and i still think that tänak has a bright future and so is neuville(but he shurely will stick to citroen/psa).
but there are so much other names around at the moment who do a good job. breen, arzeno, abbring, paddon...
Don't hope for a comeback of Duval... It will not happen!
yeah, i know. but he had a great aggressive driving style. i still have nice memorys from rallye germany 2007 with the xsara. that was awesome.
Duval was fast indeed, but both crashprone and (what iv'e heard) not to easy personality, so i don't think he will be back.
mikkelsen is young, fast and serious, he started driving wrc 16yrs old. He said this week he aiming to be the most fit driver in wrc, after he run Oslo maraton last saturday. I don't think many other wrc-drivers will do that :)
Suzuki had no money so I wouldn't blame Lindholm for not having skills. He was working on development of other cars as well - for example he and Baumschlager are the not-known names of the initial Fabia S2000 development.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar