You mean South Estonian Winterrally? I have heard the same that there might be two 208 R2 cars ordered in Estonia but I do not know to whom these are ordered?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
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You mean South Estonian Winterrally? I have heard the same that there might be two 208 R2 cars ordered in Estonia but I do not know to whom these are ordered?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
You mean South Estonian Winterrally? I have heard the same that there might be two 208 R2 cars ordered in Estonia but I do not know to whom these are ordered?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
I´ve heard that also from very reliable source ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Peugeot Sport - RALLYE - news-1046-peugeot-208-r2-january-10-2013-deliveries-in-time-for-the-rallye-monte-carlo-
But I´ve heard also that those will be in delivery at the March earliest...
Not sure if it has been published anywhere. Ford is working on a new Fiesta R1 and R2, based on the 1,0L Ecoboost engine. The car should be available next year.
It just came to my mind that those Pug 208 R2 cars might be related to Cracco project?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeppe
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Originally Posted by bluuford
Normally Cracco Jr will run in Estonia with a 206 N3 ;)
The second one is for Boštjan Logar i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
So is the FIA plan to go Turbo for all R classes for 2014?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Theres definitely a batch of customer cars available this weekQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeppe
I hope not - the R2 & (non turbo) R3s are the best sounding homologated cars at the minute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Turbos generally sound horrible - the DS3 R3 sounds like a TDI Golf....
From spectator's point of view You are right. The problem is that such wish isn't realistic. Atmospheric engines are a dying kind now. Car market is driven by low-emissions, low consumption, pedestrian safety standards (that's also one of reason why to go for small engine) and blabla. That's why carmakers one after another goes for small turbo units and therefore these naturally get also to all sorts of competitions.
I don't like it but who cares about me. Now nobody cares how long a thing like 100 kW 1.0 engine can last. Where are You going to find someone to repair a second hand hybrid? Yeah, it works like something from a PC game, has nice displays with all the stats, graphs and other playstation-like features but who the hell is able to keep that damn thing running after ten years? Almost nobody even makes new downsized engines suitable for major repairs. Cars are getting more and more just a goods like a fridge, TV or smartphones. How come that You can use 15 years old Civic VTi for competition without any major rebuilds during whole season? I shall stop crying... :)
I think a 1,0 litre turbo engine would sound better than a 1,6 turbo engine with a 29 mm restrictor because a smaller displacement engine needs more revs to have the same airflow => peak power on higher revs.
Sure, but when R3 has 29 mm restrictor, R2 or R1 must have less...
I did meant those Estonian cars..Quote:
Originally Posted by catty
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3te...510f9d7413.jpg
First pix of Opels plans...
GALERIEN*:: rallye-magazin.de
It looks like a fairly compact car and its a 1.6L thankfully!
In Ireland this coming week-end, Richard Tannahill and Andrew Slattery will discover their 208 R2s(Birr MC Stages Rally) :)
This is fantastic that Geusens on an old C2 beat Chérain and Radoux, driving therefore more modern cars(Twingo and Fiesta)on Rally van Haspengouw !!!! :bounce:
You forgot Boon and Canal-Robles who won most of the stages among R2 but both had their troubles.
It was a great battle in R2, Geusens, Boon, Canal, Seminara, Cherain, Radoux etc. full attack everywhere!
I think you'll find tannahill has already done an event in his, and possibly crashed it today.....
Brilliant Xavier Baugnet in Boucles Clavièroises for his first in 208 R2 !!!! 65th after SS1(lost a lot of time about 5')...finally 4th after SS9 !!!!! :)
Sure he will be the man to beat in the belgian 208 Cup :D
Latest news from Peugeot-Sport press release:
74 208 R2 sold to date...among the countries in which drivers/team bought at least one model: Sweden and Netherlands !!! ;)
Inforallye announces big interest from Ivan Ballinari to run the swiss 208 R2 Cup :eek:
This is really a great news for him because that would mean a 208 R5 in 2014 championship if he wins the cup :D
Stéphane Lefèbvre new livery :)
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/la-208-r2...hane-lefebvre/
French ace Cédric Robert at the wheels of a 208 R2(from Saintéloc)at the rallye du Touquet next week :bounce:
Has there been an engine upgrade for the Fabia R2 in 2013? Read somewhere that it now had 195 hp, is that the right figure?
I don't know when was last engine update but the engine has over 190 Hp, yes. Last big change I remember was new rear axle first used by Elwis Chentre in Barum rally 2012. But I admit I don't follow the development.
What was done to the rear axle Mirek, do you know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I think you read it from here: Skoda Fabia R2 / Rally cars for saleQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I´m wondering also is that true or is that ´only´ marketing..
This is true, Tomek Kasperczyk also buy this new stronger engine when he destroyed last one on Wisla Rally.
And first 208 R2 confirmed in Sweden.
Source: Thorsell Motorsport - NYHETER
Is the Fiesta R2 the only one left with aprox 165-170 hp?
Does MSport plan for an upgrade of the fiesta soon?
Fiesta is great car for cups. There is no need to make it more expensive in my opinion.
New cup in ERC: M-Sport to support one-make Ford Fiesta R2 series in ERC
That i around 81 000 EUR for 4 rallies. That is around 20 000 EUR/event, which is a bit expensive. But considering the fact that car itself costs around 35 000 - 40 000 EUR and it is all included (entry fee, fuel, tyres, service crew, etc), then it is not too bad.
Fully agree, but for people competing with the Fiesta against C2 Max, 208, Twingo Evo, and Fabia + it would be nice to have an option to buy an upgrade to not loose out before the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
So far the Fieastas have benefitted from having the best handling, that has evened out most of the engine gap, but I have a suspision that with the 208 coming, it will take the lead as an overall package.
In the Norvegian championship this year the R2 class is the most even and competitive class with 10 cars batteling it out, 5 of those Fiestas.
on snow those 20+ missing hp has not been that important on snow, but now the gravel season starts with more grip!
According to someone on Rallylink Forum, Andrea Crugnola would run 2013 CIR/Italy in 208 R2 !!! :)
M-Sport tried to homologate an engine upgrade recently but it was turned down by the FIA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Not entirely sure why though
Is Citroen coming with Ds3 r2?
Peugeot has a R2, so I don't think so...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordini