Loeb against endurance rallies

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Originally Posted by skarderud

It was hardly a insult, more of an fact. So you are half danish? Cool!
When our man stop ruin every discusion with his **** and nonsence, i will start answear his post in a proper way. I could ban his posts from my profile, but its the easy way, and not my way of discusion. i trying to start a proper discusion about how to make wrc more atractive, i don't wan't any insults about nerd's stuff's in it. Maybe my post has no future in real life, but a proper discusion about a set of rules more atractive for smaller teams, importbased and private teams that can build and run a topspec and competitive rallycar in wrc in the future. Cause todays situation is hardly good for the sport.

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Hej drengen, when you say "importbased" just to calrify (cause I think I know what you mean but I don't like to assume and it's not exactly clear) do you mean "importer" based (vet du säg importör t.ex Norsk Citroen Importör Team)?
If that's what you mean OK, it was thru history the normal way National Champgnonskit teams were run, not ''ren-fabriks'' teams.

As for the problem with the guy who does NOT have anything but insults for men (and women) far braver than he who actually compete, while he dares NOT to, the simplest thing is just do the ignore thing....then the only time you are forced to read him moaning and spewing his contempt for essentially EVERYBODY is if somebody forgets and relies to his droning using the "reply with quote" function..


Oh and AFF is right, since noboby in the world actually understands any Finnish, even the Finns, and it's all just one kind of swearing or another, just call the guy something from the handy link:
Finnish profanity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Or Suuri kirosanakirja--a nice book full of swearing and etymology, origins , tips (why Finns say "16" mer eller mindre som man kan säga ''sjutton'')(säger man sjuton på Norska?)

Trust me, I have worked with and raced against hard ass Finns for years. They were very kind men and taught me a lot (for example I can count all the way to 3 på finska, not bad after 6-7 years!!) and it really is one of the better, more satisfying languages to be frustrated and swear in...and to 99% of the world, its polite, so everybody is happy..

@tommeke b: yes, i think that to, but technique is one side of it, i prefeer competition and several potensial winners. if, and maybe its not far away, a new crisis reach eu/euro we will lost the manu's, and then no wrc? maybe the consept is more suitable for a R4t class/consept? an easy way in and resonable prized rallyclass for talents, teams like adapta can have a deal with mazda norway, opel team germany and so on. i think also the likes of nobre will disapear fram a class like this, cause its so hard competition that they wont even be seen on tv.

@jan: yeah, importerbased, i dint know the right word :)
sjutton is two things, seventeen and a nice way to say "faan" :) sytten, or "søtten" outside towns, is the norwegian way to say 17.
the finnish swearing-stuff is genius, then i can insult anyone :) its like the norwegian tv-comic, the two danes that don't understand eachother so they ended up talking english..... it's comon in norway to say that danish isn't a language, its a sickness :)

in norway a couple of years ago, it was a trial between a guy from nothern norway against a policeofficer, he called the police "hæstkuk", a horses dick in english, and the jugde said that that wasn't an insult, its comon in that area to use such words :)

back to topic!

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

To be fair to MJW, I do remember one of the WRC team members arguing that the current WRCars weren’t designed for Endurance events. And that was one of their arguments against the Endurance return...
I don’t think anybody is really advocating every event is Endurance. It’s variety that is needed. So, 2,3 Endurance, 2-3 Sprint, and the rest what we have now. It would be nice to think some events would drop the Cloverleaf format – as that has brought us boring/ staid events, e;g Deutschland - which for 10 years has been virtually the same.

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Andy is right! Different formats could stand side by side as IRC organizers, on a small scale, have already showed.

The clover leaf routes, based on the central service area, brought real logistic advantages to competitors, but lead to an excessive homogeny of WRC, damaging the adventurous side of rallying.

Things got worse with 9 to 5 schedules in order to bring TV and VIP’s, forgetting that WRC popularity is heavily linked with local spectator’s enjoyment, as we’ve seen today in Fafe.

In order to revive WRC roots and keep manufacturers direct involvement, essential to the sport, multi format rallies could really be the answer - especially if integrated in a contained calendar (12 courses maximum), with transnational routes, as seen in Swedish/Norway rally - together with a realistic capacity to maintain WRC cars costs controlled, promoting stock parts larger use and restraining technical developments.

It’s fair to say that FIA representatives are showing a new and sensible approach to WRC, highly needed after Mosley’s unhopeful years...

GP Week : Issue 147, Page 1
A lot of common sense spoken my Michele here, endurance thankfully doesnt have to mean long drawn out rallies with more of the same. I like what she is thinking.

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Originally Posted by MJW

GP Week : Issue 147, Page 1
A lot of common sense spoken my Michele here, endurance thankfully doesnt have to mean long drawn out rallies with more of the same. I like what she is thinking.

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Yes, I liked it when I read that this morning :up: