That´s why because other than FINNS + (P.Solberg) can´t drive full flat out. Others are slow scary chicken ladyboys in real rally FINLAND.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
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That´s why because other than FINNS + (P.Solberg) can´t drive full flat out. Others are slow scary chicken ladyboys in real rally FINLAND.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
say that there will be no rallyradio by YLE. :(
Olympic games take all the resurses ....
I don´t believe in that rumour. In my world Finns can´t be more interested in olympic games than gravel F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by jiipee64
Hopefully JML will not crash into said chicanes...Quote:
Originally Posted by T.Maanteiden kuningas
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Originally Posted by jiipee64
Hope that's not true. That would be the first time in like, what, how many years?
Wasn´t there a couple of years in the mid-90s when only the local commercial radio did the rally radio coverage instead of YLE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
Anyways I´d still prefer to have a proper rally radio on the actual radio, not just some vague stream in the intertubes.
Thats bad news if true.Quote:
Originally Posted by jiipee64
YLE rallyradio producer shoots down that rumour on rallyradio's Facebook page. Olympic games will be aired nationwide on a different frequency compared to rally radio's local Mhz's.Quote:
Originally Posted by jiipee64
Hi all - Since all you guys seem local I figured you are the best to ask (i'm not getting anywhere on other forums or by contacting others).
We are going to be traveling from the US to Scandinivia for 2 weeks this summer. I booked the trip during the Finland Rally with hopes we could catch at least a day of action. Our itinerary right now has us taking the Ferry from Stockholm to Helsinki and arriving in Helsinki around 10:00 Thursday morning. We plan to leave from Helsinki and drive to Jyvaskyla area right away, I have tried to look at the rally stage map and coordinate stage start times with where we need to be to catch the most stages. Are there stages happening in the south on the way from Helsinki to Jyvaskyla that we could attend?
We plan on staying somewhere in the area Thursday night (although I have not found accommodations yet) and catching action Friday before heading back to Helsinki Friday afternoon.
This is my first WRC rally and I am only used to American rallies which can sometimes be chaotic getting to spectator areas but nowhere near the level of an event like this. Just looking for any pointers so I can catch a few good locations either day. Is Laukaa a very far drive from any stage action or Jyvaskyla proper (looking at a hotel there)?
Thanks all
As you arrive Thursday morning to Helsinki, don't hurry up north. The rally begins in Thursday afternoon with the southern stages, ceremonial start in Lahti harbour at 16.00 and SS1 Koukunmaa (first car 17.23), being roughly 1 hour 15 minute drive from Helsinki harbour. If you continue to SS3 Mynnilä, you go north and most propably towards the accommondation you will reserve. Friday stages are all within touching distance from Jyväskylä (around 30-60 minute drive). Laukaa is not far either, SS8/11 Lankamaa 1&2 is ran in Laukaa. But if you are going to leave the rally already on Friday afternoon, for accomdation Keuruu, Petäjävesi or even Jämsä or Mänttä might be better because the morning stages are on that direction. If you go to SS3 Mynnilä, it's at least 1h30min drive to location of Friday morning stages. Please note that it'll be late when you arrive from the southern stages and the Friday stages start early, so for one night perhaps the most expensive option for accomdation is not the most recommendable. Feel free to ask more, there are a lot of help around in this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by CellarDoor
Very good, really appreciate the information. I was kind of finding the same thing as I looked at the maps, take our time leaving Helsinki to get to SS1 south of Lahti. Is it possible to watch SS1 and get to SSS2 (Super special?) in order to see first car? Then we could carry on to possibly it's looking like Keuruu would be our best stay so we can catch SS4 and maybe SS6 before heading back to Helsinki later in the day.
Jyvaskyla is pretty much booked solid by all the teams, media etc from what I found out so i'll check in the surrounding towns that you mentioned.
As far as what time to arrive at the spectator area to see the first car due, should I account for a long amount of time to park, walk, etc? Is every stage viewable for spectating in some capacity?
Thanks again
Possible, maybe, but I wouldn't bother. There's a mere 1,5 hours between first cars and considering the reversed starting order, not good. Traffic conditions could mean that you end up with nothing special, especially considering that SSS Jokimaa is not anything worth hurrying into. I'd say find a relaxed spot on SS1 and stay there as long as you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by CellarDoor
Add Korpilahti, Muurame and Koskenpää to your check list. Those and the ones I mentioned before are small or smaller towns, accomdation is mostly cabins, cottages, etc. Perhaps some hotel or b&b vacancy in Jämsä or Mänttä, I would guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by CellarDoor
This depends on many things. If it's a roadside park and you arrive late-ish, it could mean a walk of few kms. If it's field parking, then less. But everything is possible. For the 1st stage of the day I'd count at least one hour from parking the car to walk to the stage, just in case. There are a lot of people moving around during the rally, so traffic jams etc. will be there but past few years it hasn't been anything too chaotic. This year for Saturday's Ouninpohja it could be another thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by CellarDoor
Every stage is viewable of course. Hardly any no access areas. Some restrictions occur, of course, and organizers likes to keep people in pointed areas, but you can walk freely if it's well before 1st car, you're in the woods and not damaging anyone's property/harvest. When you arrive in Helsinki, get the spectator's guide for information.
Jyväskylä Booking From there you can book a room from Majoituspalvelut which I have used past seven years. The location is perfect and the price is reasonable. Breakfast is included. There still might be vacancy.
Thanks all - when I contacted Jyvaskyla Booking they only had two options, Hotel Hivri and another hostel type place (Christian something...) so looks like stuff is getting book.
I was able to reserve a room just north of Jyvaskyla though yesterday close Laukaa (25KM) so not too bad, and they will do a late check in Thursday if we decide to check out SS3.
Will they have lights on by SS3? Will it be dark enough yet at that time of year?
It should get dark for bigger numbers, but definitely not for top cars. From summer solstice to NORF is about the same as to summer solstice from now, and now it gets dark around 22:30.Quote:
Originally Posted by CellarDoor
Historic-ralliautot esittäytyvät Neste Oil Rallissa
Some historic rally cars will be presented in Rally Finland's showcase area in Lahti harbour on Thursday. Historic cars will also run through SSS2 Jokimaa. 40 cars max. It's all for promoting the historic ERC event in Lahti the weekend after Rally Finland.
Apologies if this is a stupid question, but is Ouhninpohja back?
Yes, as PS on Sunday!
From some of us it never left...Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
SS17 15.37 Ouninpohja 1Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
SS18 18.00 Ouninpohja 2 (Power Stage)
both 33,01km
During recce acropolis Kevin Abbring said his next vw-skoda start is Finland, so probably no Mikkelsen in Finland.
Sadly, because Ogier-Mikkelsen fight is far more interesting than Ogier-Abbring
I hope he will be there with WRC if not with vwQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Unfortunately I don't expect Mikkelsen or certain other driver(s) in Finland.
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Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Do you know something we don't?
What a nice car they choose for the photoQuote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/i...483831_105.jpg
Kinda like my car (says the man who was driving the last Saab 96 in VM rally)(In the last event the car before homologation expired)
Kimi Raikkonen hopes to compete in Rally Finland - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
I have some hopes that this rally will also go in rotation so that we can have some other events in calendar like Australia/Brazil/RSA...
Yeah, let's replace Finland with Mongolia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
or USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I'm sure they could scrape together 4-5 cars.
Entries are open. I'm expecting an entry from Fabrizio de Sanctis anytime soon :-)
Does anyone know who did the longest jump in Rally Finland?
Was it that one: Longest jump in rally finland - YouTube
wilks is a contender also
Rally Finland 2007 Guy Wilks - YouTube
I think that Markko Märtin's jump from Ouninpohja 2003, Yellow House jump, is the longest measured one from modern days. 57 metres at 173 km/h if I recall right. That Guy Wilks' flight is from SS Leustu, jump best known for Novikov's stunt in 2009. Last year they had metre marks up to 55 metres there and they roughly landed at 45-50 metres. Wilks' jumps must've been around 55 metres at least. I think we would have some nice lenghts from SS Himos "Nikara's jump" as well. Only Ouninpohja's jump is ran to direction measured here this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
From the 1970s this jump by Juhani Kynsilehto in 1975 is rather big one. Legend says it landed around 70 metres, but that's not accurate of course. Co-driver was, by the way, one Martin Holmes.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-koj4vbuu4S...ynsiletho3.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UKro03TB7s...ynsiletho5.jpg
same spot, different angle WRC Neste Rally Finland, longest jump ever, Markko Martin - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by tolis
good comparison with Grönholm :)
Grönholm didn't like to jump. Gigi Galli was very surprised when he heard that MG did that jump in 130km/h and Gigi did it over 170. And still he lost about 1sek/km in Ouninpohja...Quote:
Originally Posted by eib1
new record Gigi Galli 58m!!! 0001 - YouTube
Here is Galli's jump -05 and I remembered his time wrong. He lost only 2 sek to MG... And if I'm right that Gigi's jump was only 55m(no 58 like thay said in video) long but he did it fastest ever, 175km/h... So Martin did longest jump but Galli did it fastest speed...
Where can I check out the list of the drivers who have already been entried to rally Finland? I've tried Kiti but it doesn't even tell when the entrying starts there.
They will be in Kiti but entry just started so there is no one yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Arska
I found this, NORF 2012 event in FB: https://www.facebook.com/events/423434171020761/
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Some recent incar footage from SS Leustu filmed and published by YLE Ralliradio. It's not the whole stage, starts around 6 km and goes on a little bit after the Novikov jump, at around 15,2 km they exit the stage. This year the stage is reversed and also quite some roadwork done to the now-first part of the stage. Should be must like a new stage then.
Voi, voi, they have done the stage much more wider on the interesting parts around the small lake where some spectators use to bath or row their rafts in. Also after that. Seems those parts of the stage will not be so interesting any more...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
N4 Finnish Champion Juha Salo will drive with S2000 car in Rally Finland. Next friday they keep a press conference where they tell more about this... Maybe J.Salo will drive next year with S2000 because he has not got a chance against Esapekka Lappi and S2000 Fiesta this year..