this is no drama queen thing. you could clearly see it in loeb that he was not happy at all with citroen in both acropolis and 1000 lakes
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this is no drama queen thing. you could clearly see it in loeb that he was not happy at all with citroen in both acropolis and 1000 lakes
Lol, I guess his weight is the same on ground and in the air.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
I was at the end of the special stage at the trotting track in Lahti where the 2 citroens went head to head against each other and it was obvious to all that Loeb was not happy when he got out of his car. I honestly don't know what the problem was but it certainly wasn't anything along the lines of 'that was good fun, wasn't it?'
I know Loeb is french and their body language can expressive to say the least, but Loeb was having 'words' with both occupants of the number 2 car.
A friend was much closer than me, just a couple of metres away and he confirmed what I thought.
Loeb was talking to him because a rock flew from ogiers car and hit his windshield...i doubt that Ogier did that on purpose...and i doubt that Loeb was giving a hard time to Ogier for something that random...what i do not doubt is that you and your friend should go back watching F1, it provides all the soap opera stuff you crave for.
Well I normally 'ignore you' as you write so much garbage, but I had to check to see what gems you would post and as usual you didn't let me down! F1 my ar$e, I can't remember the last time I watched one.
Anyway the friend who agreed with me and was there, unlike you, has competed in WRC events as a driver, has won WRC events as a co-driver, has managed a WRC team. He now runs a very successful historic rally in Sweden and has a very successful tour company.
He has also been to so many WRC rallies that he has lost count and is on first name terms with just about everyone that has rallied or is still rallying.
Therefore, I am more inclined to believe him when he says that Loeb and Ogier do not get on rather than a keyboard jockey like yourself.
As for you, what have you ever done apart from write drivel? Other posters have asked about your credentials and why you are so negative about everything and why just about everything you write is filled with so much venom and hatred and you never answer. I can only conclude that you are jealous and envious of anyone who has done anything with their lives.
P.S., don't bother replying as you are 'on ignore again'. The forum was so much better when you spat the dummy a while ago and said you weren't coming back. :rolleyes: Pity it didn't stay that way!
the fact that he was inside the sport for such a long time and still bothers with soap opera stuff doesn't do much about his reputation...its nice he has a successful tourist company.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
what is the point of answering to someone you are ignoring ???
I am envious (in a good sence) of far more important people than rally drivers and tourist company owners.
Rally is just a sport and i watch it for the sport aspect not the soap opera stuff.
It would be different if it were the two factory ford drivers argueing and bickering like children :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Like it or not, those two obviously dont get along very well, and that is never very good for a "team".
Loeb was not satisfied with the Lahti super special stage. He told mtv3 that in the first corner when he had the outer track, he got all the gravel from Ogier’s car on his windshield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Camelopard
Loeb barked Jokimaa's super special stage
It's all about balance... :bounce:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
There is another meaning of weight,
called "force of gravity".
I eagerly wait for Loeb's decision(this week normally) :mark:
I hope that's not true. The WTCC is a joke, with even less official Manufacturers than WRC. If he's going to do any racing, I hope it's a proper quality series, ie; WEC, Le Mans, DTM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Aha.
my guess is 1 more year at the Citroen team... to give them a chance to find the No2 to accompany Ogier in 2013 when the big German shepherd will come to WRC.
i hope he stays. especially next year with the changed running order rules, he will not have to run 1st in every stage of the championship, have the disadvantage and still win it... and hopefully show to Seb2 that he is still the master.
the thing with Loeb is that if he retires now it will leave a gap in thw WRC since he is still the best out there...none seems to be faster than him at the moment consistently. But on the other hand he has nothing to prove anymore...if he wins this years championship that will make it 8 in a row NONE OTHER IN ANY KIND OF MOTORSPORT MANAGED TO WIN 8 IN A ROW..... that doesn't make him the best rally driver until now but also the best motorsport driver of all times, especially if you take into account that he manages to be fast on the track as well.
I would like to see Loeb get beaten before he retires...it would feel like a proper retirement that way.
if he does retire i will miss his driving a lot. when i see him at the stage live its unbelievable how smooth and tidy he is but still pushing above the limit. the rest of them are all over the place to try to play catch up... i will be at Rally GB this year so I will see him retiring (if he does)
Totally agree. I would like to see it too, or to see Loeb driving a non-Citroen car for 1 or 2 seasons. But I don't think it will happen, my guess is (too bad) he will leave WRC and join WTCC or Endurance :\Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
if he retires he goes home...maybe 1-2 drives for fun in some rallies and motorsports events...think about it.
If he Joins another series what he actually does is he continues to have all the negatives of a professional driver and on top of that on a field he is not master of. A the age of 37 i think there are less and less things you consider a challenge. so please stop with that He will join A-B-C series...he will not.
But Loeb himself said that he won't stop racing, even leaving WRC... I don't think with "racing" he mean a couple of events just for fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
We will see...soon.
My first post and everybody will suffer my crappy english!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Loeb doesn´t break records if you talk championships of ANY KIND OF MOTORSPORT, dont forget two wheel drivers of motorsport history.
No niin tästä se sitten lähtee niin kuin naapurin Sierra...
Welcome!Quote:
Originally Posted by T.Maanteiden kuningas
I'm sure your english is better than my finnish :)
Thatsa point, how many titles has valentino rossi won?
Rossi 9 titles, but it´s not simple in motorcycles because there is lot of classes. Agostini won 15 titles, Hailwood 9 titles and so on..
Juha Salminen (FIN, enduro driver) has 18 titles if we get all titles. But these are different kind of motorsport,than rally but if we talk ALL KIND OF MOTORSPORT.
These was just examples...
NONE has ever won 8 CONSECUTIVE ones....
you can only count the top league ones...Loeb has titles in s1600 as well....and many nobodies have titles in lesser divisions of any motorsport so its not a true indication.
It´s hard to measure top league in different motorsport leagues.
Example, 1960´s competition in 350cc class(TT/RR) was sometimes harder than 500cc and driver can win 350 and 500 title in same season and so on... And in enduro you can´t say strait what class is top league every year.
This is offtopic and i´m sorry about that.
Loeb is great and record breaking driver, my post is not against to him.
Is Loeb a high profile star in France?
yes...he does commercials (not car related) and also after his championship win last year he paraded around the stade de france in his C4 wrc before a Frances friendly match...a french guy would answer it more properly but i think most of french people know him
well i think if any country had an 8 time world champion in any sport, they would exploit his marketing value to the maximum.
Also remembering he got a medal from the French president so he has to have a high profile.
And not just any medal, but Légion d'honneur, the highest decoration in France.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
Thanks for the clarification. I didn’t remember what kind of “medal” it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
According to the L'Equipe's polls Loeb is on the podium of the favorite sportsmen of the French people for several years, in the last one in july he was 2nd.
He did several TV ads for Citroen, Total and Red Bull of course and also Playstation, Mennen, Allianz, Elephant Bleu (car washing service)...
It's paradoxical but Loeb is more known than the WRC in France !!!
edit : http://www.tns-sofres.com/_assets/fi...p-sportifs.pdf
I'm sure I remember seeing the playstation one years ago :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tofrallye29
Very good marketing for France and French rally fans, but what about the rest of the world?
If he stays much longer, every sponsership for every car entered in the WRC would be a french firm :laugh:
Interesting comments. I don't think that Loeb has been made that much of a big deal in the rest of the world. I mean he is no McRae of Tiger Woods in terms of name recognition. I see WAY more ken block tshirts then anything else, but then again, i think that has nothing to do with the WRC.
at least he is a big name in france. what about fin rally champions? are they big superstars in the uk? i dont think so... nobody know them except from few that follow the wrcQuote:
Originally Posted by tfp
was burns a big name in any country outside uk? again no... only colin was well known and that's mainly due to the colin mcrae games
The number of people fed up with Loeb wins grows (in the forum too).
So, what's the point to stay at citroen other than he got used to be on top of the pack.
Great feeling, sure, but... as with everithing,
one sunny day out of the blue comes to mind the magic word - Quit.
To be or not to be - the epic dilema.
We all had to deal with that one at some point in our live.
But not Loeb and not yet.
He'll stop another day.
Still has a trick or two kept deep in his pocket making everyone in every team crave for him.
Burns was popular in NZ and so is Solberg. We all still yearn for the Possum Bourne days more however.
Plan9, I suspect you're talking about rally people. If you walked down any NZ street asking people if they knew these names most would think Richard Burns was the Dunedin liquor magnate and Petter Solberg was a pacific island rugby player. Possum was a household name but I suspect even he has been forgotten by most.
Yeah, I think that as 2 of the 3 are no longer with us they may have lost some recognition. I am disappointed that Possum may have lost some recognition, I think his book sold very well when it first came out down here though. BTW, you have a mean flag bro!Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt