Quesnel's problem, a team boss' dream.

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2nd April 2011, 19:10
Barreis

Guy was a person and thisone talks like a pussy..
2nd April 2011, 19:11
Allyc85

But then if he did go to VW he could prove to the non Citreon fanboys (like you N.O.T!) how good he is and not that he only wins because his car is so good ;)
3rd April 2011, 15:19
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allyc85

But then if he did go to VW he could prove to the non Citreon fanboys (like you N.O.T!) how good he is and not that he only wins because his car is so good ;)

If he wants to break further records, he should join PSWRT:-)
3rd April 2011, 15:19
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barreis

Guy was a person and thisone talks like a pussy..

???
3rd April 2011, 16:47
alleskids

I think he means Guy Frequelin and Olivier Quesnell (this one)
3rd April 2011, 17:11
Barreis

+1
3rd April 2011, 23:01
tfp

Ok, I understand now:-)
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/310320...-wrc-link.html
If anyone hasn't seen it yet:-)
I wonder how the two sebs will get on in jordan?
4th April 2011, 08:30
Karukera

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barreis

Guy was a person and thisone talks like a pussy..

+1

A simple fact : Loeb is a Frequelin product, Ogier is Quesnel's. The rest is flowing.

Ogier asked for team orders at the end of day 2 in Mexico, Quesnel jumped on that "what a good idea my dear protégé ! ", Loeb said something like "yeah, go and have an omelette instead, i don't hand over wins" ...
From what i understood in some forum communities, Citroën board now clearly favor Ogier over Loeb for $€£+ marketing reasons plus the fact that people are done with Loeb.
Note that about VW, Quesnel doesn't say they want to keep Loeb at all "price", just that he's merely "welcome", after what he did for them. Cruel world. :s tare:
4th April 2011, 08:58
wildsir

Ogier will be a bigger commoditiy for Citroen if he can beat Loeb before he retires, even Citroen know that.
4th April 2011, 10:21
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

From what i understood in some forum communities, Citroën board now clearly favor Ogier over Loeb for $€£+ marketing reasons plus the fact that people are done with Loeb.

Offcourse they favor Ogier, he is the future in the team when again Loeb drives his last year, who people are done with Loeb?
4th April 2011, 13:00
Karukera

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

Offcourse they favor Ogier, he is the future in the team when again Loeb drives his last year, who people are done with Loeb?

They are not preparing Ogier to take over in the future, they want it to happen now, Loeb playing a supporting role would be ideal... (in their dreams)
You mean who are the people done with Loeb ? apparently Loeb no longer sells cars in their domestic market, the mass finds it 7 in a row too easy and boring.
Ogier is slightly younger and a master alpine ski instructor, good image marketing wise. Source is forums, googlish and a couple of PSA cars salesmen.
4th April 2011, 14:20
jonas_mcrae

I am done with Loeb winning in a Citroen, Loeb in a VW in the other hand... its interesting...
4th April 2011, 14:45
wwbroe

I'm not done with Seb Loeb yet, he is probably the best driver ever and Ogier, alltough being very promising, still has everything to prove.
4th April 2011, 17:29
Barreis

+1
4th April 2011, 19:40
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

They are not preparing Ogier to take over in the future, they want it to happen now, Loeb playing a supporting role would be ideal... (in their dreams)
You mean who are the people done with Loeb ? apparently Loeb no longer sells cars in their domestic market, the mass finds it 7 in a row too easy and boring.
Ogier is slightly younger and a master alpine ski instructor, good image marketing wise. Source is forums, googlish and a couple of PSA cars salesmen.

Ogier, a master ski instructor? I never would have guessed that :)
Its right though, Citroen have helped Loeb to 7 world drivers championships, citroen has taken the best he has to offer, and they now realise his retirement looms and he isn't the future for them anymore.
Also, any sport that has the same driver/player/team/whatever win a world series 7 times in a row is going to get predictable(Rally Deutscheland ;) ) and it takes the excitement away from the sport.
On the other hand, the old veteran doesn't want to give in to a youngster :)
I look forward to more close battles between the two sebs :)
4th April 2011, 20:44
sollitt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

Source is forums, googlish and a couple of PSA cars salesmen.

All good reliable sources, of course?
5th April 2011, 17:09
Allyc85

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae

I am done with Loeb winning in a Citroen, Loeb in a VW in the other hand... its interesting...

Agreed! Come on Seb grow a set of balls and move to VW ;)
5th April 2011, 17:11
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allyc85

Agreed! Come on Seb grow a set of balls and move to VW ;)

lol...
5th April 2011, 20:14
Bobcat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

They are not preparing Ogier to take over in the future, they want it to happen now, Loeb playing a supporting role would be ideal... (in their dreams)
You mean who are the people done with Loeb ? apparently Loeb no longer sells cars in their domestic market, the mass finds it 7 in a row too easy and boring.
Ogier is slightly younger and a master alpine ski instructor, good image marketing wise. Source is forums, googlish and a couple of PSA cars salesmen.

http://www.autohebdo.fr/endurance/le...la-908-hybrid4
5th April 2011, 20:17
N.O.T

very good news indeed, i wonder how many minutes will raikonen be behind and the excuses he is going to use.....
5th April 2011, 20:42
tfp

What does it say? Something about Kimi and Seb in the Le man 908 HDI?
5th April 2011, 20:47
Barreis

Would be nice..
5th April 2011, 21:01
tfp

Is this another late april fools? This is getting boring....
5th April 2011, 21:18
alleskids

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfp

What does it say? Something about Kimi and Seb in the Le man 908 HDI?

Sébastien Loeb and Kimi Raikkonen take the wheel of the 908 Hybrid4 during the test day of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, Peugeot Sport reveals today. Given the lack of available drivers for this first outing, Olivier Quesnel had no choice but to appeal to both rally drivers whose reputation is well established circuit. The link with the manufacturer Sochaux is logical since they display colors Citroën, the cousin of PSA in their discipline
5th April 2011, 21:19
N.O.T

quite likely is aprils fool....the news site is 01/04 but the m-sport propaganda official posted today....no wonder the ford are geeting such a beating already the seem to have the wrong people at the wrong posts in everything they do.
5th April 2011, 23:32
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by alleskids

Sébastien Loeb and Kimi Raikkonen take the wheel of the 908 Hybrid4 during the test day of the 24 Hours of Le Mans, Peugeot Sport reveals today. Given the lack of available drivers for this first outing, Olivier Quesnel had no choice but to appeal to both rally drivers whose reputation is well established circuit. The link with the manufacturer Sochaux is logical since they display colors Citroën, the cousin of PSA in their discipline

Thanks:-)
If you could hand pick two wrc drivers to do a le man test it would probably be those two, bu surely, they would have other test drivers etc?

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