Enough with all this absolutely correct Danica criticism! I can't take it anymore! Please stop, she's a good person! Tom Anderson said it wasn't her fault!
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Enough with all this absolutely correct Danica criticism! I can't take it anymore! Please stop, she's a good person! Tom Anderson said it wasn't her fault!
yeah, so she can get lapped 5 times in that race, a track that requires a driver to muscle the car around, Danica is still way in over her head thinking shes such an amazing driver, oh wait, shes already admitted that "its not her fault" the cars suck.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
I'm still waiting when shes gonna start taking responsibility is shaking down a car and setting up a car that doesnt include help from teammates telling her what to do.
I still feel bad for TK having to deal with this three ring circus, at least Marco seems to have matured a little this season
I haven't really kept up with the Nationwide Series this year. But has someone been keeping the GoDaddy car in the points, so that The Danica doesn't have to qualify it or go home next month? I hope so. Cause if they haven't, and she has to go home... it's not her fault!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
Remember, there is no "i" in "team", but there is in "Danica"! In fact, I'd say she's all about the "i". :p
It looks like NBC sports agree with some of us.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/373782.../beginSlide/1/
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Yes, that decision was made pretty quickly after DP went back to her Indy Car deal. Very smart (but probably pretty costly too) on the team's part.
Her Nationwide group has had drivers like Steve Arpin (a future star), Landon Cassill and Scott Wimmer in the car since she left to keep it in the Top 35.
That team knew better then anyone that if they didn't keep the car in the Top 35, that the chances were pretty good that the #7 would be rolling back onto the trailer more often then not once DP got back into the saddle.
Only the top 30 in Nationwide are guaranteed spots and the 7 car is currently 28th and only 28 points away from 31st.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
As of Dover, previous race to today, the owner points for the #7 had the car in 25th place. Only top 30 are guaranteed, the rest have to qualify on time. Today, Steve Arpel was in the car, and he spun out and crashed on lap 2. He eventually finished 34th, and this doesn't do the owner points any good. NASCAR doesn't have the owner points updated through Charlotte yet, so I don't know where the car is after today. There are 3 more races, Nashville, Kentucky, and Road America before New Hampshire. If I were Danica, I'd be starting to get nervous about having to qualify on time. It won't do the Brand any good to be a Gomer, and have to go home.
I'm not certain the 7 has been in every N-wide race though, maybe? At any rate, where did the Princess leave that car in the standings? 45th?Quote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
Hey, it wasn't her fault! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
I know, she's not an engineer. Maybe the car needed more downforce, I don't know?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
It has been in every race. It was well out of the points when she left the car (in a smoking heap)Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
"It's loose!"Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by beachbum
The sickness of over half the first 30 minutes being Danica, Danica, Danica, Dancia is driving me nuts. Such BS! ABC has to have smarter producers than this. I guess we wouldn't expect anything different but under the circumstances it couldn't be more inappropriate. I'm about to turn it off...freakin' turned off the Indy 500 because of Danica!?
I know better. ABC is on mute. I have Indycar.com for sound. ABC should be ACD - all "All Commercials & Danica".Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
Well the Boo-birds were out in force during the driver intros.
Gary
I'm thinking the wall will be looming a little larger and a little closer today for the brand
5th. Good finish for DP.
Why would that finish today make the happenings of this month/year/pro career any different? She was just as uncompetitive today as she was all month/year/pro career. A very fortunate finish (see Indy 500 thread). Nothing takes away the results of her and her team today but the performance is hardly redeeming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Not me. When she quits relying on her pit crew for her advancements on the track and starts some real, true racing to earn her finishes, I'll eat lots and lots of crow. Til then - nope.
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Originally Posted by Starter
A 5th place finish on fuel strategy? Please. She was NEVER ON PACE with the better drivers.
Yep put ole Helio in da shade, by a whole 12 secondsQuote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
was the first on her team to cross the line
fire up the grills, the brand is back
cause as they say, it ain't where you start, it is where you finish..... :rotflmao:
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Originally Posted by TURN3
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Originally Posted by beachgirl
Oh please. Everybody was cracking on Danica for making excuses about why she qualified poorly, and now those same people are making excuses about why she finished 6th?Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
If you can't admit that you were wrong about her ability to finish well at Indy, then you're just as bad as she is...
Now that's playing chess!Quote:
Originally Posted by Burd
I never said she "can't" finish well at Indy. Seems to be the only place she does for some reason, given it is as difficult of oval as there is. I gave her and her team credit for a great finish today...doesn't mean that her performance redeemed her today. She wasn't competitive all day, ran around 15th most of the middle of the race. She benefited greatly from a couple of other people's penalties and a handful of guys that gambled on fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marbles
Funny how some people want to spin things. Now that Marco has been placed back in 3rd they can't say all year..."yeah but she was the highest finisher from AA today...". That doesn't even come close to telling the story. Next to Dario's performance, TK had the drive of the race. Does his result justify how well he and the team did today? Of course not but those are the breaks. Danica was the worst performing of the AA full-timers today (and was behind Johnny until he claimed he got bent up). Alex Lloyd and little Dale Coyne's team finished 5th so if Danica is to garner sooo much I guess he is now the proclaimed 5th best driver in Indycar? NO, don't think so.
All I'm saying is that people need to keep things in perspective. She did the one and only thing today that she DOES do well...bring it home. She isn't fast, she isn't competitive, but when you finish sometimes you back into a good result and that's great...but speaks nothing for performance.
I didn't see much of the race (we were playing the Turkish GP on DVR while grilling), but I'll throw a crow burger on the coals if Danica gave her crew and team all of the credit for her 5th place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
As our pal Scotty pointed out, if it's their fault when she's off the pace... it must be to their credit when she does well.
I just liked the challenge of answering Burd's statement. I'm amazed at here ability to finish where she does, or her teams ability for her to finish where she does. I'm sure with the amount of coverage she gets that if she ever did cut her way through the field like Kanaan did we'd miss the end of the race because of the replays.Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Get the BBQ sauce ready because she pretty much did just that. She did give them the credit for her sixth place.
Gary
Yes, this is why points are awarded for your ability to keep pace with better drivers as opposed to where you finish. OH WAIT!Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Danica redeemed herself this afternoon. She stayed out of trouble, worked with her race engineers, and moved well up from her starting position. Who can argue against that? :confused:
Well, good for her (and I mean that sincerely). I just heard on Wind Tunnel that she got booed again today and it really got to her. Maybe some humility is (finally) sinking into that big head.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
I grew up in the south on a cattle farm, folks. So don't think that a crow would be the worst thing that I've ever eaten. ;) Tell Danica to swing by the lake tomorrow. I'll have a bite of crow... and she can eat some humble pie.
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Originally Posted by SportscarBruce
She did what she always does (and what works in today's Indy Car series). Runs all day, has good pit stops, gets a boatload of luck and waits for folks in front of her to make mistakes.
That's how she has finished in the top 10 4 times now at Indy. Give her credit for not making bonehead moves and getting to the checkards. Many more talented drivers still can't do that (especially in long races). But as Robin so accurately said tonight, Marco and Tony RACED their way to the front; Danica used ATTRITION to move up. Big difference.
actually I heard cheering!
the situation made me laugh a bit. It was in victory lane, Dario crawling out of the car, eveybody was buzzing and in the back a lowd crowd was yelling "Da - ni - ca!, Da - ni - ca!...."
DanicaFan, where you there with your pals?
;)
credit to eveyrone who kept their noses clean. Part of the marathon that Indy is.
Yep- the difference between a racer and a driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
did she pass one car under normal racing conditions???? the sad reality is that she somehow lucked out a 6th place finish when she was basically in the 15-20th place all race long.Quote:
Originally Posted by SportscarBruce
everytime I was seeing the intervals, it always seemed Danica was leading a freight train much like on road courses, which comes to questions whether or not she was blocking, the TV never showed it so I cant personally say 100% she was or was not, but there were always 5-6 drivers stuck behind her for many laps.
I woudn't call it luck- and I'm not exactly a fan of hers.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
She and her team executed a well thought out strategy. She did not have the speed to run up front, so she and her team deserve kudos for finishing in 6th place.
My guess is, once she's strapped into that NASCAR stocker, she'll get that golden horseshoe driven so far up her... well, let's just say that I don't see pit strategy getting her into the Top 10 over there. And if you block over there, you'll either move or you'll get moved.
Whether she got 5th or 6th, that was a fantastic result, however it came to be, considering how slow she (I mean, the team and the car) was all month. I'll give any dog its due if it catches a rabbit, whether by luck or skill. But from what I've read on the intraweb today, the rabbit crawled in the pen with the dog and that's how he got caught.
From what little I've seen, am I right that Tony Kanaan pretty much had the drive of the race?
TK was easily the driver of the race, with Lloyd right behind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Whoa, whoa, whoa...I'd buy somebody trying to pass off TK's drive of the race as THE one although my vote would go to Dario considering nobody could touch him. An argument to be made? Maybe, they were easily the two in contention. Lloyd was just as uncompetitive as Danica all day and literally was within a place or 2 of her after every yellow. He would pretty much lose a spot or 2 to her and some others on each pit and then he'd pass her and basically only her back. He got to 4th the same exact way as Dancia got to 6th (as has been clearly noted). Great result for him and the little Coyne team, just like Danica, but hardly a candidate for "drive of the race". Same goes to him as to Danica, great result --- didn't really perform at a high level.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
Of course Patrick catches hell. She is at best an slightly-above-average to average Indy driver who is treated like a the second Schumacher.
She obviously considers herself to be special and believes that the fans have the priviledge of watching her race.
Racing is about R-A-C-I-N-G? We can agree on that?
What if the entire field had Danica's "skills" to hang a the back waiting for others to crash out in front? Think that would be a great Indy500? Maybe everyone could finish 6th then.
She deserves ALL of the scorn she gets -- she creates most of it herself. There are other average drivers like Danica in the field -- the differences is they act glad to be there, and are respectful to other racers, and are attentive of the fans. QED!
Sick of the prima dona! She's going to NASCAR? Good riddance I say.
I wonder how she would have done back when the pits were always open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Now they herd them around like cluster of lemmings; back then the team and DRIVER smarts for pitting were very importand, and one could make up time by timing it right.