It will be tough for him. I wonder what another driver in that seat could have done with the car.
Nico is beating him with a margin. The tense in the team will soon get immense.
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It will be tough for him. I wonder what another driver in that seat could have done with the car.
Nico is beating him with a margin. The tense in the team will soon get immense.
Quite.Quote:
Originally Posted by studiose
As I recall, he was outqualified on his Ferrari debut too....a clear indicator of things to come that turned out to be.
The info I heard (on the BBC practice commentary) was that the Mercedes is prone to understeer, which is not how Schumi has liked his cars to be and that it suits Rosberg's style more.
Once that is dialled out/cured/car-totally-changed-by-evil-forces-intent-on-not-giving-Nico-a-fair-chance (Delete according to degree of lunacy), then 3/10ths isn't that big a gap at all to bridge.
Plus, it is only qualifying. 49 laps await us tomorrow.
3 2 United Kingdom Eddie Irvine Ferrari 1:32.889 +0.518
4 1 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:33.125 +0.754
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Australian_Grand_Prix
Blimey, Nico is as good as Eddie Irvine.
What a load of rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Just take a look to the margin that Vettel, Massa and Hamilton got over their team mates, it's much more than what Rosberg managed over a 15+ years older MS, still the detractors are only pointing to MS being slow.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamburello
Tamb! LOL :D I was just about to post that 1996 data too.
Schuey has been beaten, and whilst as a Nico fan I'm thrilled, I have to expect this situation will not continue.
I pedicted on another thread than MS would win at Malaysia, and whilst that seems unlikely with the pace of the car atm it could be that race that he starts to feel at home again.
I didnīt say that MS is slow. But it seems as Nico is a bit faster, anytime!Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
You implied that he is slow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
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Originally Posted by Mia 01
Just a simple question, Ioan:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
did you honestly even consider that Nico would be faster?
I think heīs up for a rough ride and simply because he doesnīt have that 4-days-of-testing in Fiorano every week.
And thats not taking anything from him. He is and will forever be the most successful f1 driver.
For me the problem is not Nico, unless he is rusty as the old Transformer in the 2nd movie he will school him sooner or later. But the car seems to be much slower and usually the top 2 teams in the beginning of the season fight for the championship. And the top 2 are Red Bull and Ferrari. So to the casual fans he will fail, even if he beats Nico and the McLarens.
Honestly I didn't even bother to think about this. But apparently others did a lot and now they are venting the frustrations they accumulated against MS in his previous 17 years stint.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
Mike's going to be just fine.
He's only 0.3 seconds off of Rosberg's pace.
Rosberg VS Mike 0.30
Massa VS Alonso 0.35
Hamilton VS Button 0.40
Vettel VS Webber 1.10
Never cross your chickens before you count your bridges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
Nico has been known to qualify very fast in some races previously. How many races has he won? Qualifying is very important, I agree. But this year, when tyre wear dictates the pitstops, then other factors will come into play. Let's wait and see what happens tonight (my time).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzeidzei
Well, pretty much as I expected.
In qualy Rosberg has a clear advantage, but come race time, MS is just on his pace.
Come Melbourne I dont think that will change, but in a few race time the tables will turn.
Still, well done for Nico to finish ahead of Michael, Jenson and Webber. But Michael was pretty decent as well!
Yeah, an entirely decent opener. We'll hear more from this young man soon! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
If the car improves. As Garry Walker pointed, the fully working Mercedes is behind a damaged Red Bull and from what I saw, behind McLaren-Mercedes as well. So 4th best team. This is far from ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by studiose
Exactly 5 seconds over 50 laps it's only 0.1 seconds a lap in race pace on a 2 minutes long lap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
MS will be only getting better whereas Rosberg never proved that he can up his game against a strong team mate.
the chinīs ass is grass and nico is the mower. by midseason there will be some neck issues.
Seemed to be quite an uneventful race for MS. I'm sure he'll get more into the swing of things after a few races, but can Mercedes provide him with a winning car?
A decent wekeend for MS, nothing moore.
It will take a couple of races for him to cope with it again.
yepQuote:
Originally Posted by Mia 01
Ratman, I'm going to quote this for my sig. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by ratonmacias
So he's human after all, isn't he? Keep up the good work Rosberg! He looked pretty hopeless to me without the best car on the grid and a team mate hired to make him look good. However I feel generous today, I still think he's a decent driver.
Having said that even he had to finish behind his teammate, it doesn't seem to matter him. After three years absent from racing, yesterday's result was quite good to make him happy, finished in front of reigning champion. The young Schuey was clever driver, had high consistency, put up every effort to make a cut and be winner. He may need couple races to cope with the race he can adapt to signify more the existence of his comeback.
To be fair, Michael was fine yesterday. But with these new regs he and RB will have a lot less room for clever tactics. Itīll be more about the real speed and my prediction is he wont be faster than Nico. He should be able to qualify in front of Nico and that will be hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by leopard
All in all, a good race for the senior citizen.
Schumacher slotted in quite well I thought. He was competitive and just got beat by a better drive from Nico. To be fair, people are unrealistic if they think Schumacher is some sort of super hero that is going to be able to make miracles happen. Winning races at this stage of his career may be a bit too far unless he has the best car and a slice of luck. Personally, I think he has more than his hands full with young Rosberg.
Hi, welcome to our forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
I think you are wrong here. I never liked the guy, but after Bahrain, I do expect SchM to be at the front when the car goes well. I think he did end up ahead of last year's WDC.
Thanks.
You might be right but I think if Nico gets a fair shot, he may surprise a few people. He may not be a Vettel, Hamilton or Alonso but is a good peddler all the same.
As for Button, he did about as well as expected. Where Michael and Nico will be about the same, I expect Hamilton to be consistently ahead of Jenson.
Never underestimate SchM. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by skc
Hi people, I'm not new to this forum as I've been following it for years.. This is my first post, though.. There are 3 factors in Schumi deciding on his comeback, I think..
- He was so close to get his 8th crown in 06, he was utterly frustrated to retire without it.
- He knew he would be the world champion in 07 and 08 as he thinks he would do a better job than Kimi and Massa respectively( Though no one can be 100% sure about that)
- He also knows he could do a better job in the same car than Jenson and Rubens in 09. This would make him the champion in 09, as well :)
I think he did an incredibly good job in Bahrein. To be so close to Rosberg's race pace "after three years absence" is unbelievable. From now onwards he can only close the gap..
I reckon he would be third "between Massa and Hamilton" in a third Ferrari yesterday....
Lets also not forget that this track is a bit of a Nico speciality. Didn't he post the fastest time on his debut GP here in 2006?
Rosberg may have posted FL in 2006, but since then Bahrain has hardly been his speciality - 10th in 2007 in a car, which was capable of points; 8th in 2008 and 9th in 2009. Going by history, Nico may actually be more impressive at Sepang. 3rd on the grid in 2006, 6th in 2007 before the engine failure, was leading the race last year.
Rosberg is quite underrated because he wasnt on a team with a big pr machine and he isnt british. my guess is he will outpace the chin. as for those who think the chin is still good because he beat boyband just remember boyband never had it. he became a wdc because brawn built a hell of a car last year.
so if, and it's a big if, Nico wins anything, it will not be because he is in the factory-supported Brawn? It works both ways, you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratonmacias
Anyway, the bad thing for Nico is what has been suspected - even if he beats Michael on his day, it will be said that it's only because MS is "too old or hasn't adapted to the car".
how is the brawn that won the first 6 races in a row last year and this years mercedes that didnt even get to the podium relate?Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Yes, and "boyband" delivered. Let's see whether Britney will.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratonmacias
Listen up, Ratman, you're overstating the success Rosberg had over SchM in the latter's first race for several years. At Bahrain, fighting for positions is just not feasible with the heat and having to preserve tyres, and the old git was trying to get his rythm back. Just wait till Albert Park and the mower might work the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratonmacias