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Asphalt test! What a beautifull f*****g car!
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Car looks very well. Apparently Wilson has done most of the testing, is that him in the photographs or somebody else?
I like very much!! I wonder what it sounds like.
It looks realy great!
If it goes as fast as it looks, Fabia and 207 will be in for a challenge !
That looks amazing, I love the huuuge arches!
Yeah, BIG FAT car... :)
And we're about to see in the Scotish! :D
Really sexy little car!
Cant wait to see it live!
Well it's much more exciting to look at than the Focus, hopefully it will sound nicer and look a bit more agile on the stages too!
No space from hand to the door.. Bigger crash and game over..
Thats a fair point. O fcourse its very hard to tell from a few pics but it looks like there is very little room for the car to absorb a hard side impact, even with the strong roll cages they have these days.
To me it looks like it's Märtin who did the tarmac test.
The body itself without wheel arcs is 1722 mm wide. 206 WRC had 1673 mm, Xsara 1705 mm etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
It certainly looks like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennizw
Am I the only one that doesn't like the look of it then? :s Perhaps it will grow on me.
Damn. What a beauty! :kiss: Can't wait to see it in some "proper" paint scheme.
Good point. Still, these S2000s are one size smaller than modern WRCs and I'm worrying that all the hard work done to improve the side impact protection is now back to square one. Is the "new" 200mm safety margin between the seat and the door-side roll cage possible to build on these cars..? It was one of the best, if not the best, safety feature introduced in the WRC lately. You can't beat the laws of physics but it gave the extra 200mm to play for in case the worst case scenario happens. No, I'm not saying that it would save lives in a 160 kph side impact, but the rule brought some leeway to play with. Nowdays that space has been filled with some kind of energy absorbing foam. Does anyone know what that stuff actually is?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
I'm not bashing anything here, I'm just bringing up some points that I believe we all should pay attention to. When going fast, there are always going to be risks and minimizing them is a vital part of the engineering process.
I can remember reading from somewhere that there are going to be rules that state that rollcages have to be made stronger (bigger diameter of the tube). It is now 38mm, the new rule requires a use of 50mm tube. Not sure if the steel class is going to be same. I also remember reading that Loriaux used quite amount of time for this car's rollcage. Would be interesting to see interior pics. Can't tell much from the exterior shots but looks like atleast the vertical tube near the B-pillar is significantly larger than in the Focus.
No you are not the only one, don't like it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Car hopes to debut on RMC in January. Driver/s? Is it going to be a new team or one of Ford's current drivers?
Maybe it's still possible to have those 200 mm. When I look at SX-4 dimmensions, it has 1730 mm body width which is not that much (of course Focus and C4 are wider) and it was homologated under these new rulles, wasn't it? I'm not sure when they were applied... But yes, generaly S2000 are smaller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
At least I can see in appendix J that for newly homologated S2000 cars those polymer energy absorbing foams in door panels are also mandatory and that they will also use polycarbonate side windows like WRC.
Regarding tubes, there is no given diameter, there are more possible combinations of minimum diameter/thickness. I always wondered how small diameter is used in some Prodrive WRC's compared to others...
I agree..Quote:
Originally Posted by Juha_Koo
It's not going to be an 'Official' entry is it? A 'Privateer' entry....??Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
I also think that it won't be M-Sport entry.
I hope ford will subscribe for the IRC, not only for the S2000, but also for the 2WD R2 customers.
I totally forgot SX4... Yeah, I always wondered how were they able to do that 200mm space. Although I'm not 100% sure did they really have that space, but remembering the thickness of the foam panels, I believe they did. Good to hear that the development goes on to S2000s.Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
Your thoughts about Prodrive WRC's rollcages are totally correct... No wonder they suffered few rollcage failures during their years and desings were changed. What really surprised me was the door "X" rollcage on the S14 WRC. For some reason, they changed it to "old fashioned" model, the one where the X is made by welding three tubes to create the X-shape and after that add a steel plate structure to the place where tubes connect. They, along other manufacturers, had used the "new" desing, two V-shaped bars connected by a spacer and whole set welded together for many years...
The question of the Fiesta dimensions has to do with the car makers strategy to rallying. They are decreasing the segment wich introduces in rallying. From the high segment of the 80's and 90's (Audi, Mitsubishi Gallent, Ford Sierra, etc ) they started to downgrade to the medium segment (Lancer, Impreza, Cordoba) of the 90's. Now it seems that the future of rallying is only for the low segment with small cars.
It's obvious that WRC and rallying in general is condened to be the low level of motoring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gziZfXEMxoM
Supposed to be "spy footage" but by M Sport to promote the car!
Nice marketing video.
Good sound!
Bah! It's no Fabia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roy
Don t think so JAM.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
All the car segments year by year they are heavier-bigger.
Sierra is no bigger-heavier than a today vw golf for example,while they are different segments.
Same segment with galant-sierra is a today passat,which i don t think that is an ideal chassis for making even a wrc.
when you have to build a wrc or s2000 car with a weight @ 1250 kg you can t start with a car that weight 1600 kg.
coming soon:
http://www.fiestas2000.com
In Autosport this week they report that M-Sport will indeed send a car to Monte Carlo but they haven't decided who the driver will be yet, Malcolm said "It could be Mikko, Matthew or Markko"
or all 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Wishful thinking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz Lightyear
No, they have said just one. I hope Mikko.
Motorsport News are reporting that Craig Breen's team have ordered a car for BRC and other events.
It'll be interesting who and how many Fiesta S2Ks turn up for RMC in January.
Pity we won't see times from Scotland next week.
I guess someone will come up with a analog system to take some times, if the car does not have transponder.
Yes, it will be interesting to see how much slower Wilson is than Wilks/MeekeQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
We already know that. A LOT.
look we all no MW is not the quickest but the whole idea of running 00 was to be able to compare times to the 207 and the fabia but to do it under the radar.
Ford has no plans in IRC next year:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80180
But M-Sport maybe has, cause apparantly there is a difference!