M.Hirvonen this year champion?

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27th July 2009, 17:43
N.O.T

i think rautenbach is the future.
27th July 2009, 17:48
Psycho!

He could be the present as well...!!!Fast but not reliable(YET).I hope he will improve for the upcoming seasons...!!
27th July 2009, 18:10
Barreis

They're both future as long as they pay.. But in S2000 cup it could be interesting (at least for one season).. In 2011 Mr.Wilson and Mr.Quesnel can say again: GIVEEEE MEEEE ALLLL YOUUUUU GOTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, yes, JML can cry as much as he wants (it doesn't metter, really).. :)
28th July 2009, 07:34
Karukera

:laugh: Wow, the new Greek section of the forum is hilarious. Keep it up ! :) and praise the points scoring system if Hirvonen makes it at the end of the championship. :up:
28th July 2009, 08:28
lcd

Have you ever thought that Loeb winning all the time, may have caused the WRC a lack of Interest?
Ok, that's not his fault, but It's a fact, Isn't It?
28th July 2009, 08:57
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

:laugh: Wow, the new Greek section of the forum is hilarious. Keep it up ! :) and praise the points scoring system if Hirvonen makes it at the end of the championship. :up:

These are Greeks!!
I don't think Mikko depends on scoring system.
He just makes his job well and is first this time!
Drivers know scoring system before the start of the season
so if someone doesn't like it he can retire ;)
28th July 2009, 09:11
jens

Actually Mikko's promising situation in title fight isn't entirely down to points system, because even with old system he would be relatively close to Loeb now: 53-48.
28th July 2009, 12:22
N.O.T

i think rautenbach will will the title...and wilson will win finalnd....how does that sound ??? both are dedicated and have nice surnames to become champions....
28th July 2009, 15:05
Karukera

Quote:

Originally Posted by jens

Actually Mikko's promising situation in title fight isn't entirely down to points system, because even with old system he would be relatively close to Loeb now: 53-48.

Your maths are slightly wrong in Loeb's favour :) in a 10-6-4-3-2-1 system it would be 52-48. That said " relatively close" is still behind.

And whether you like it or not jimakos, Hirvonen is a winner when someone else loses for some reason. He indeed perfectly uses the Rallying technique of stay behind in case of...

He has yet to dominate a second rally because he won only one proper duel out of his 8 wins. He himself acknoledged his fate was to be second so his only help is the points scoring system ...

I always liked and admired the Finns for their attitude of going out for blood. Hirvonen has quick and steady pace but is not one of those White Blue knights in my book. That of course is my humble opinion.
28th July 2009, 15:59
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

Your maths are slightly wrong in Loeb's favour :) in a 10-6-4-3-2-1 system it would be 52-48. That said " relatively close" is still behind.

And whether you like it or not jimakos, Hirvonen is a winner when someone else loses for some reason. He indeed perfectly uses the Rallying technique of stay behind in case of...

He has yet to dominate a second rally because he won only one proper duel out of his 8 wins. He himself acknoledged his fate was to be second so his only help is the points scoring system ...

I always liked and admired the Finns for their attitude of going out for blood. Hirvonen has quick and steady pace but is not one of those White Blue knights in my book. That of course is my humble opinion.

I don't agree with your opinion!
I think rally Finland will show us if Mikko can take the title!
I believe he'll take his country and gain a lot of respect from
they who judge him :D
28th July 2009, 17:24
N.O.T

Rautenbach will win in Finland and china and then in Pakistan....the title is his...you are all wrong....
28th July 2009, 17:28
lcd

Rally Finland Is crucial, from a psychological point of view too!
I guess Loeb already feels a breeze on his spine :D , as this year Is the
only time In the last 5 years, someone else wants to beat him so badly...
28th July 2009, 18:01
Psycho!

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

I don't agree with your opinion!
I think rally Finland will show us if Mikko can take the title!
I believe he'll take his country and gain a lot of respect from
they who judge him :D

Keep your positive thinking for the rally and for the final classification...Don't write posts that might be used from some fellow countrymen(...)to judge you in the opposite case...They are so irritating even if they have right... :D .Do you know what I mean?? ;)
28th July 2009, 18:05
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

Rautenbach will win in Finland and china and then in Pakistan....the title is his...you are all wrong....

Calm down N.O.T. calm down...
28th July 2009, 18:16
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho!

Keep your positive thinking for the rally and for the final classification...Don't write posts that might be used from some fellow countrymen(...)to judge you in the opposite case...They are so irritating even if they have right... :D .Do you know what I mean?? ;)

I understand exactly what do you mean Phycho!
I know very well who are these fellow countrymen but nevermind :D
28th July 2009, 18:28
Karukera

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

I don't agree with your opinion!
I think rally Finland will show us if Mikko can take the title!
I believe he'll take his country and gain a lot of respect from
they who judge him :D

He has good chances to win Finland and it should be about time for him to win his home event considering his number of starts there plus his personnal knowledge of the stages.
29th July 2009, 05:22
Helstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

:laugh: Wow, the new Greek section of the forum is hilarious. Keep it up ! :)

GEEKS not Greek ! http://www.worldofglamourmodelling.c...ies/mutley.gif
29th July 2009, 08:47
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

I would like to know your opinion about JM Latvala!
I think he represents the future of WRC

And future is all about crashing, preferrably on a Super Special Stage? :eek:
29th July 2009, 09:09
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

And future is all about crashing, preferrably on a Super Special Stage? :eek:

No I don't say that!!
I think is very fast and he has taken a lot of stages.
But he's still inexperienced.
I believe him for the future :)
29th July 2009, 09:35
teufel

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonkka

And future is all about crashing, preferrably on a Super Special Stage? :eek:

Mikko did exactly the same thing in Japan 2004...
29th July 2009, 09:41
N.O.T

and sordo in cyprus....

and mikko in finland with the subaru...

this thread is glorius....
29th July 2009, 10:11
A.F.F.

Looky looky. Three weeks away and Mr. Mousefart is jumping on the table ranting and raving all he wants :D

I do agree with RS. The point system isn't fair. Mikko should be far away from Loeb right now. Hoewever, now that the point system is what it is, Mikko has taken the upper hand and Loeb has to deal with it. In that perspective I don't see why Mikko couldn't reach the title this year.

I do think he should win Finland. Not only because it's the real meter against Loeb but also I can't stand champions with one win. I'm my opinion their not worthy. Take Richard Burns for instance. He took the title with one win 2001 and got help from Petter and Markko while Mäkinen, Grönholm and McRae all got three wins. Steady performances helped him to the title.

One thing is for sure though. NORF is a duel Loeb vs. Hirvonen and all others will be a lightyear away from them. I'm glad that I'll be there witnessing it in the stages. :)
29th July 2009, 11:05
jimakos

For them who don't like Mikko take a look of me:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fa580e26b6.jpg

Nice guys hey??
29th July 2009, 11:07
Psycho!

Veeery nice!!Xaxaxaxa...!
29th July 2009, 11:18
N.O.T

the glory continues......
29th July 2009, 15:51
jonkka

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

and sordo in cyprus....

and mikko in finland with the subaru...

this thread is glorius....

Neither of them lost a certain 2nd place. That is something one simply does not do. Never.
29th July 2009, 17:01
lcd

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

For them who don't like Mikko take a look of me:

http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fa580e26b6.jpg

Αυτό που έκανες δεν υπάρχει φίλε μου... :rotflmao: Απλά δεν υπάρχει!! :D
29th July 2009, 20:02
jens

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karukera

Your maths are slightly wrong in Loeb's favour :) in a 10-6-4-3-2-1 system it would be 52-48. That said " relatively close" is still behind.

Err, didn't Loeb have one 4th place? That's why he has 53 points. ;)
29th July 2009, 20:47
Wim_Impreza

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

No I don't say that!!
I think is very fast and he has taken a lot of stages.
But he's still inexperienced.
I believe him for the future :)

Latvala inexperienced? He has done around 75 WRC rallies and drove already in 2003 in a Focus WRC.
29th July 2009, 23:06
N.O.T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Latvala inexperienced? He has done around 75 WRC rallies and drove already in 2003 in a Focus WRC.

this thread is made of gold from start to finish....don't try to argue, just enjoy it.....
30th July 2009, 08:32
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wim_Impreza

Latvala inexperienced? He has done around 75 WRC rallies and drove already in 2003 in a Focus WRC.

I mean inexperienced about pondiums and wins!
He doesn't run in a high level for taking the championship!
Inexperienced in first place not in wrc generally ;)

And don't hear different voices around here,they are jealous of us :D
30th July 2009, 08:56
teufel

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

this thread is made of gold from start to finish....don't try to argue, just enjoy it.....

sad, but true...
30th July 2009, 09:12
cali

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

And don't hear different voices around here,they are jealous of us :D

Why??
I think this topic is one big load of BS :vader:
30th July 2009, 09:19
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali

Why??
I think this topic is one big load of BS :vader:

Everyone here has understood what voices I'm talking about.
They don't annoying us but amuse us :D :D
Keep going!
30th July 2009, 15:13
Karukera

Quote:

Originally Posted by jens

Err, didn't Loeb have one 4th place? That's why he has 53 points. ;)

You are are right Jens :up: , my bad. Should have checked once at least. It's worse for Hirvonen than i thought then. Just kidding :)
31st July 2009, 10:41
jimakos

It seems Hirvonen-Loeb make the 1-2 in Finland!
Mikko keeps Loeb a little behind but nothing serious so far!
I was dissapointed from Kimi Raikkonen!!
Didn't expect a so bad race from an experienced in F1
driver :D
31st July 2009, 10:48
N.O.T

nice conclusions with not even 1/3 of the rally over.....anything else you would like to add ???
31st July 2009, 10:55
jimakos

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

nice conclusions with not even 1/3 of the rally over.....anything else you would like to add ???

If you need the whole rally to make a conclusion you are
watching rally for 1st time...
I just said my opinion!
Is going something to change?
Kimi will take the country?
:crazy:
31st July 2009, 11:10
Josti

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimakos

:crazy:

Fitting..
3rd August 2009, 14:26
jimakos

After a very difficult but and impressive victory in Finland
Mikko keeps everything on his hands!
He has an unbelievable opportunity to take the title
with Loeb not in his best.
Although he needs (for me) 2 more rallies to win
for taking the championship and nobody can accuse him
of not being the best this year...

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