And that still doesn't change the fact that kyle is an ass and treats his teammates/crew like they were crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
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And that still doesn't change the fact that kyle is an ass and treats his teammates/crew like they were crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
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Originally Posted by muggle not
and your proof of this is what?
Shut down the forum. The guy wants "proof" for all posts. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Basset
I used logic, and much better logic than was used to state that Jr had no talent.
Kyle has treated his teammates/crew members like crap, but I think hes better about it now.
Phoenix in 2007 (whichever race he crashed and left the track while his crew repaired the car)
Bristol in 2009 (NWS race)
I'll take a Kyle Busch over a Jimmie Johnson any day. I thoroughly respect Jimmie's driving ability, but when he's out of the car talking I'm not sure who's more asleep, him or me. I like to see driver's that care more about their race results than about always pleasing their sponsor (or crew). I'd personally find a field full of Kyle Busch's to be immensely entertaining, and competitive.
"Logic" like when you said Bush was just "Busch league" talent :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by muggle not
Your blinded by your devotion to Jnr.. do you kiss his picture before bed every night :laugh:
Just check the stats between them both over the last 4 years and you will see PROOF that Kyle over that time is by far the better driver.. stats do not lie (unless your a Jnr lover). There are numerous stats sites that give you a "compare the 2 drivers" feature.. its there for all to see
I guess when you've spent your whole childhood racing your social skills aren't fully developed. Kurt finally figured it out after a few visits from Lady Karma. Little bro might also figure it out someday. Lady Karma was 3 for 3 at Dover.Quote:
Originally Posted by mharrison
Your right. Great driver but always sounds like theres a script under his nose when he speaks. Maybe thats because he generally stays out of trouble and we only ever really hear him speak outside victory lane. i dont knowQuote:
Originally Posted by MilkaDunoFan
That figures. Why not try watching the racing instead. Or, maybe wrestling would be more interesting as they have "characters"Quote:
Originally Posted by Haulin'AssAndTurnin Left
Learn to read. I never stated that Bush League had Bush League "talent". I stated that he is Bush League for his actions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Basset
You "stated" nothing of the sortQuote:
Originally Posted by muggle not
Sounds like your knocking his talent much more than his actions there :laugh:Quote:
I keep losing more and more respect for Kyle Busch (busch is a good name for him as he is bush league).
You are up to your old games of only posting part of a quote. people are now on to your methods. This was the entire post by me which clearly indicates it was a blast at his actions:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Basset
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Originally Posted by muggle not
Don't be surprised if Jr Motorsports doesn't field a Cup car next year with Keselowski as driver. chances are pretty good. hendrick would sell his share in Jr. Motorsports.
Another rumor....seems like Mikey is now a very minority shareholder in MWR. Rumor is his wife (soon to be ex) sold her 25% to kaufman who now owns 75% of MWR and leaves mikey with 25%. LOL, another rumor is Mikey tried to get one of his relatives a job at MWR and was turned down by the major owner. :D
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Brad is racing in the Cup series next season.
If that MWR rumor is true I'd say Buffy didn't settle for simply getting even. She got ahead. Waaaaaay ahead. Touche'! :D
New CC, same Jnr...... :laugh:
how dare you say this! jr is had a great race he finsh.....nevermind, i mean kyle busch comment last week couldnt be true whos left to blame now :D :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Basset
Jimmie has 3 championships....Kyle ZERO...Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
Who cares about him being "exciting" when he has a mike in front of his face? Sponsors don't always go for guys who act like dorks who can drive...
AS for Junior...well he sucks right now that is for sure. I think he just isn't comfortable with the COT. Just like his ole man and Rusty never really liked the conversion of bias ply tires to the radials....
for a top 30 finish today :up:
Oh come on, Fred. Give the guy a break. He had a good run going and got caught up in chit that was none of his doing.
Spot on mate. I was well impressed with him on sunday. Like you said someone else ruined his day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky1329
You got to be good and lucky to get anywhere... this year he hasn't had both at the same time too often.
In the whole time (1 year) I have been watching NASCAR, I really couldn't see what was so special about Jnr, apart from his surname. However, now that he has a better rapport with his crew chief, Jnr is becoming the fantastic driver he is suppose to be.
He was very impressive on Sunday.
Interesting take. I wonder how close that is to happening?Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
How was he impressive on Sunday with a 27th place finish?Quote:
Originally Posted by NoahsGirl
Jr. sucked as he has all year. You can't blame the CC now it is driver ability.
when your team mates finish in the top 5 top 10 ever race.
You show up 20 something 30 something???
Put a fork in JR cause he is DONE.
Did you even watch the race? He was having a very good run until he got punted. Jr has earned a lot of the criticism he's been subjected to but it's not justified in this case for this particular race.Quote:
Originally Posted by youtellme
I think they must have been watching the IRL race. Anyone that knows anything about racing would acknowledge that Jr was running a good race until he was knocked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky1329
Well, it's obvious that something other than the race at Sonoma was their focus. It's gratuitous bashing, muggles, and it's uncalled for.Quote:
Originally Posted by muggle not
Lets just see where he ends up at the season end shall we....one things for sure, he won't be in the ChaseQuote:
Originally Posted by muggle not
Neither will 31 other drivers. :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Basset
He probably won't. That still doesn't excuse the ignorant comments made about the Sonoma results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Basset
So he's found his natural standard of talent then being in that group?
exactly
As my 92 year old granny used to say,
You can't make chicken salad out of chicken sheet
To all those who think he is either a] not talented or b] washed up; I ask you two questions:
If he has no talent, explain how he won 2 Nationwide/Busch championships in a row, and 18 cup races. There are people who made the top 50 list of NASCAR's greatest drivers who didn't have championships nor 18 wins.
If he is washed up, what was Jeff Gordon last year? He couldn't win and was having terrible runs while his teammates kicked butt. I guess Bobby Labonte sucks because he cant get into the top 20? Guys go up and down in their results all the time for reasons that have nothing to do with anything other than the fact often there are 15 cars minimum that could win any given race. The level of competition is pretty fierce. Jr. is going through a crap period right now, I wont deny that. That said, he could come out next year and go on a tear. You never count anyone with a good team behind him when he was a proven winner and he is still in his mid 30's. Sorry, most of you just WANT him to be done because you cant grasp the fact people like the guy because they like the guy. I agree most of the Jr. Nation can act like idiots, but I haven't seen Jr. condoning the idiots for tossing beer on the track either.
I believe that some that are doing the Jr bashing:
1. Have no knowledge of Nascar Racing talent.
2. Are simply trying to stir the pot (like most trolls do)
3. More likely are a combination of both 1 & 2.
more then half the haters, bash JR for that reason,Quote:
Originally Posted by muggle not
but for myself, i do bash on JR yes, but i dont hate the guy, i have met JR many times, i have nothing against JR, i just cant help but laugh at some not all, but some fans that go way way over board and make him out to be like this "racing god" so thats why i pick on JR i guess you could say i stir the pot, but i dont see myself as a troll i think some fans need to clam themselfs , but if JR won like this weekend i wolud be the first to say great job,
to me its all in good fun you need yr drivers you dislike and like, back in the day, my dad was a Gordon fan, my bro was Rusty fan, and i liked Dale sir
we had fun puting the bad mouth on eatchother driver ( all in a fun way)
but for the true JR haters dont take it so real guys, anything can happen in racing,and thats what makes it so much fun
The reality is that for Jr. to live up to expectations he'd need to be regularly running top 15 and in serious contention for the Chase. The expectations come from the fact that he moved to the best team in NASCAR, and he's running the worst out of all his teammates. Last year he was finished 3rd out of the 4. I think the problem is that Jr. is a better than average driver, but not a GREAT driver. He's just not as good as a Jeff Gordon or a Jimmie Johnson, he's not at that level of talent. But he's still a very good driver, and that's not good enough for some.
Most of the drivers out there racing every week aren't as good as JJ or Jeff.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
Bassett, you better hurry. Dale Jr will have 5 trailers selling his merchandise at NHIS this weekend. The most any other driver has is 2 trailers.
Since this is in your neck of the woods I thought you would be interested and not want to miss the opportunity to spend some money buying lots of Jr merchandise. Th T-shirts and cap would look great on you. :D
and thats why HMS have him there, to make money with trinket sales... for now. Rather like David Beckham when he joined the LA Galaxy
I think Jr will turn things around. A new crew cheif is exactly what he needed, they should forget this year and get ready for next. Why not take a few risks and get a win or two to shut the haters up.
Eury Jr should have never moved over with Jr the Hendrick in the first place, Eurys and good CC but Jr really needed a fresh start and a CC who would take his crap on the radio.
Doesnt the same apply with the Kyle and Kyle fan bashing. He gets far more abuse than Jr.Quote:
Originally Posted by muggle not