He will have mechanical diffs in Portugal or no??
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He will have mechanical diffs in Portugal or no??
Agreed. I think Petter has the potential, but the Xsara wont be much of use during the fast rallies this season. It will get more difficult already in Portugal, and in rallies like Finland he wont stand a chance...Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
To stick with the Xsara for Cyprus was smart, but now it's time to switch. If he doesn't get a C4, I would go for a Focus.
naaa get a whale for Finland, that would be awesome!Quote:
Originally Posted by swordsman
Congratulations to Petter, Phil and the whole PSWRT - what an achievement this has been! Not only the great result for this rally, but the whole process of making this team in such a short time, with limited recources.
Great driving from Petter, seeing in the TV footage that he didn't have a trouble free rally either, he actually had several problems, and still being pretty close to Hirvo is very, very impressive. Makes you wonder what he could do in a up-to-date car!
I think he made a great rally in Cyprus. Congratulations!!!
I'm not sure. For example Fabia WRC had weak engine compared to other WRCs and it was capable of something on fast rallys only. I think that engine is much more limitating on technical stages where there You need more acceleration from slow corners (I took Fabia as an example because I know it's engine performance).Quote:
Originally Posted by swordsman
Absolutely Im glad hes out of Subaru.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Congrats for sure! Very exciting especially for a private team to do so well so soon after its creation.
Total Rally with Colin Clark made a pretty long interview with Petter after RN. Petter talks about everything from Hollywood to s2000. Worth a listen.: :)
http://www.pettersolberg.com/flash/p...rnal/index.php
What about Colin McRae in Australia a few years back?Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
Colin was lunatic :D
But still, he was in a Skoda Fabia WRC, and never saw performance like that from that car either!
Not bad from PG in this years Norway either. The car has potential, and has good handling, but maybe need to go to an engine wizard to get the last grunt !
Petter says it looks like he will get the mechanical diffs for Argentina. Reported in norwegian newspaper VG.
Really looking forward to see how far he can push this car..
That brings up an interesting question.Quote:
Originally Posted by dukof
If Petters Xaara esentially hjas the same engine/suspention/drivetrain as Loabs C4 leaving the only real differance between the 2 cars being the chassis, then I wonder if there is a really noticable differance between the 2?
I mean, both chassis are seam welded to make them very stiff, so apart from suspension geometry Im wondering if at the end of a rally there is any differance between the 2.
Obviously one would assume that the C4 would be better then the Xaara, but that is only an assumption - is it in fact true?
Thoughts?
The engine will not have the same configuration. App. 25 bhp differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by grugsticles
From this thread we read that the two cars have different engines:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...=131385&page=2
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Originally Posted by Daniel
I guess the EW engine has different specs, and is better, not that I know in what !
If there really is such difference then Petter's car is downgraded heavely. Source???Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
Xsara had the best engine when it retired and there has not been room to do 25 hp's anymore for years.
Software and mapping is where this 25 hp can only be gained / lost. Also teh C4 engine is the 'new' engine, wheras the Xsara is the old XU derived motorQuote:
Originally Posted by Finni
What the xsara had when it retired, has no relevance. Citroen decides the mapping and what Petter get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
I believe that none of the manu teams sell/rent or in another way give a car with same mapping as the ones used by the team itself. Marcus said last year, when he was a guest in the studio during the live broadcast from the last stage at NORF and the commentator asked him if he sees any difference between Hennings and the car he droved, that the suspension is the same but the engine isn’t as powerful as the manus teams cars.
And that's because Stobart car is one year older and the engine developement is applicable only to current homologation. I don't think they intentionally downgrade the engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
I read in a Greek rallying site that Petter will have mechanical diffs in Argentina alongside with a new engine!!Tell me that is truth!! :)
It could be true - he certainly says there has been 'a lot of development'.
even if he gets all these stuff there is no way he can improve his performance that much to challenge the top 4, so it really doesn;t matter.
Really? Last 2 rallies = 3rd place and 4th place.
And his 3rd place was very impressive as he beat Sordo fair and square.
He is so far doing a great job with what he has in his hands, I really hope he gets better material.
In suitable conditions for the car he was fastest...!!So Sardinia and Acropolis can be a welcome environment for the old Xsara!
I wouldn't bet on him being higher than 5th, if i remember well, electronic diffs made the citroens go faster (just a little, though) so he will have to learn by that weekend to get as fast on mechs as on electronics.
Petter and Seb both think the mechanical differentials are faster, he's been trying to get them for weeks. I'm thinking he'll get another 4th, but 3rd or 5th are also very likely. It depends on whether his car is fast enough to let him beat Dani, and whether JML drives off the road again.
"Petter eyes third in this year's championship"
http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk...20championship
That seems rather optimistic... He's certainly a better driver than Dani, but he's 9 points behind. That's a considerable deficit to make up, especially when he has such a disadvantage in power.
He'd better hope for a wet, wet season :p
He better hope for a miracle!!Quote:
Originally Posted by serial jeff
.............several miracles!!!
It looks like a miracle but it agrees with the "Never give up" motto.
Apparently it looks like rain on Friday - could his miracle happen?
And you trust a weatherman?Quote:
Originally Posted by pettersolberg29
I may rain, but if it does so it will rain like there is no tomorrow rendering the early runners the better road conditions (just our luck).
In any case Im hoping that this second new engine (is that right?) and the new diffs will close the gap that little bit more.
Fingers crossed for 2nd place :)
So what is the differences btw the 2001/3 and 06 model Xsara. Will it mean much to Petter to get a 06 version ?
Bigger intercooler, more efficient engine radiator, and improved cooling to the engine bay, also mechanical diffs. All added together it should make a difference, especially as we head for 'hot Med events' - not so obvious in the cooler rallies, as the colder / denser the air the more power can be extrated from the fuel/air mixture. Mechanical diffs, I dont know so much about but apparently they were better than active in the Xsara's, quite the opposite in the Subaru I think (SWRT/Prodrive) had good active diffs that masked a lot of the faults in S11, as S12& 12B had mech diffs the true horror of those cars became more apparent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
It says on his webpage that it will be the same car, just updated to the latest specs as described above.
The first news about a completely new car was not correct then.
Still, very exciting news, it will be very interesting to see if the speed of the "new" car is significantly changed!
So.. Does the people think that he will get absolutly the best specs available from Citroen? Latest ECU etc.? I hope so, but I have my doubts.. It will be better for sure..