Trust me, NASCAR won't adopt bio-fuels any time in the near future !!!
Look how long unleaded was on the highways before NASCAR switched to unleaded.
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Trust me, NASCAR won't adopt bio-fuels any time in the near future !!!
Look how long unleaded was on the highways before NASCAR switched to unleaded.
First, you just don't like the legitimate "reasons" you are being given as to why the changes in the type of engine and fuel for NASCAR won't work, so therefore you denigrate them by calling them "excuses".Quote:
Originally Posted by Saabaru
Second, on an oval, there are concrete walls and not wide open run off areas on the sides of the track like on a road course. To run a race on an oval in the rain would result in significant (and unecessary) carnage in equipment and also significant physical risk to the drivers. There is nowhere in the US where oval races are run in the rain. Again, a legitimate reason, not an "excuse".
I know NASCAR will never change, and the reason why is "because some people just want to see a good race". Some times I question weather or not some people would know a good race if it sat in their lap and called them Mama... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Roy
No it is because at oval speeds, the cars will hydroplane causing them to hit the walls at high speed with no ability to control the car or slow down. There are no grooves on slicks and the cars are going too fast to rain tires.
Wrong, you can have groves in slicks. You can go into the wall under any condition wet or dry, thats when drivers actually have to use there talents and drive. F1 races in the rain with their drivers fully exposed to all the elements. :( NASCAR acts like 180 to 200mph is some level of speed that no other form of motor sport reaches. Ever hear of Rally Racing? Racing down blocked off public roads in an all out sprint to get the best time, sometimes covering over 300km in three days? Petter Solberg drove his Subaru WRC STI (a production based car that anyone can buy) past a control point in Rally Argentina at an amazing 150.3mph on GRAVEL! :eek: Kind of makes a 180mph drive around a specially designed oval, in a specially desined race car look like a joy ride. :rolleyes: You should checkout this link, it's not Petter bout it is a Subaru WRC STI. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=32050631Quote:
Originally Posted by BenRoethig
Seriously, are you just here to troll or something? It's pretty obvious that you don't like NASCAR and are just here to belittle everything. You have been given the answers, but if it differs at all than how it is in Rallying, you consider an excuse.
No... I do like NASCAR. I would just like to see it grow up a little. Use something besides a 1960's technology carburetor, and the drivers actually have to race insted of having the caution flag waved every time the conditions change. Look at what happent in Las Vegas with the water seeping through the seams in the track, it was ridicules. The way they were crying about that tiny amount of moisture on the track you would think it was black ice.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenRoethig
Despite the fact that CART used it for years without a bother? I pooh-pooh you.Quote:
Originally Posted by e2mtt
Ethanol produced from corn is between 7-12 times more expensive than producing it from sugar cane. Corn production is a result of taxation and government subsidy more than anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by tstran17_88
NASCAR will always be resistant to change because of vested interests and politics. Even CoT which seems to be working and producing less accidents, was slammed by Kyle Busch on opening day with his famous "They Suck" speech after winning the first race.
I doubt whether the fuel issue would be different, if at all.
For what it's worth, here's something about a Green racing event, the Jetta TDI Cup.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008...tor-racing.php
And personally, i can't wait until this baby gets around the Oak Tree turn at VIR: :D
http://www.teslamotors.com/
1. I know how you feel. I was obsessed with NASCAR until I got bored with the technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saabaru
2. That was California, not Las Vegas.
3. Weepers are a problem at all oval tracks. CART almost cancelled a race at Rockingham (UK) because of weepers. Indy was repaved in 2005 because at the start of the 2004 Indy 500, weepers opened up all over the front streach. When you're on slick tires, water from a spray bottle might as well be black ice.
I think you hit the nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenRoethig
I started this thread to cut through the BS and see why NASCAR dosn't step into the 21st century and I found my answer. "Because some people just want to see a good race." Race on gentlemen, race on... :)
speaking on a high note, did anyone notice all those empty seats today.
Didn't used to be that way , not even last year.
Nascar is in trouble and they better do something fast
or in a few years it will just have been another fad that was popular for a short time and then people moved on.
oh wait , how could i be so blind,
nascar already has done something to address the problem, jr. received the morning call this week.
david
CART used Methanol. The IRL uses Ethanol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Don't forget also, taxes and subsidies are certainly a factor, but so is the fact that you can actually grow corn in the midwest-not sugar cane.
Dave, Jr. got the call my ass, easy to see what you're here about...move along...
Speaking of fads, how's CART and Champ Car and the Pet Rock doing these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by DavePI2
I think they need to get rid of the lucky dog, if you get a lap down, there is a reason for it. Double file restarts with lap cars in the back. No green, white, checkers finish. Qualify on time, if you are not fast enough, go home!!!!
My change , like it or not, would be 4 sensors in the head rest and two in front of the steering wheel, with accompaning senors on the visor or top of the visor; to be used as the on board camers angle guidance and positioning locators.To truely see what the drivers see and don't see as they drive. Then we could more clearly see how vision is obsrtucted and the importance of spotters, and of course the "in the smoke" look of an oncoming accident.
Other than that use you're imagination of the possibilities. What was he looking at when he kissed his girl before he pulled away.I didn't want to get too graphic, but i'm sure you get the idea..Could have changed the whole Dale Sr. questions about Simpons equiptment. IMO
1. Do away with "The Chase".
2. Do away with 2 lane restarts. Race start side by side, all others 1-35 single file.
3. Do away with "Lucky Dog Pass".
4. Do away with green, white finish.
5. Reduce field to 35 cars. Too many cars now with backmarker/filler/no chance teams.
6. With a 35 car field, you must qualify in the top 35 to be in the field. No more past Champions or whatever. If you can't qualify, you don't belong in the race.
7. Now that I stirred the pot, Lets agree on some changes.
:confused: ummmm......... Computers, Technology, Totally Revamping the Power Plant, Millions in testing, Research and development, and totally starting over, Killing the smaller teams :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Roy
i will take nascar the way is
there have been too many changes lately
let the teams adjust to the car :p