Rally History (part II)

a question not directly about rally history .... but who could help me about my search ....

does anybody buy french magazine "échappement" in the forum ? if yes , have they the result for french local event inside (rallyes régionaux et nationaux) ?

thanks a lot.

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Originally Posted by dario

Someone knows the results ( top 10 or more ) of Donau Rally 1970 ?
Thanks in advance
Dario

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ERC 12 – 7. Donau Rally

1 Günther Janger – Wessiak Porsche 911s
2 Schindler – Hruschka Porsche 914/6
3 Hollier – Phil Short Alpine Renault
4 Bosch – Mallat Volkswagen Beetle 1500
5 Fischer – Rader Volkswagen Beetle 1500
6 Lux – Hans Siebert Volkswagen Beetle 1500
7 Walter Poltinger – Hartinger Porsche 914/6
8 Maire-Kaibic – Pucher Ford Escort TC
9 Achim Warmbold – Klapproth Opel Kadett
10 Atilla Ferjancz – Zsembery Renault R8 Gordini

Regards,

Piet

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Originally Posted by Infiniti

ERC 12 – 7. Donau Rally

1 Günther Janger – Wessiak Porsche 911s
2 Schindler – Hruschka Porsche 914/6
3 Hollier – Phil Short Alpine Renault

Piet

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Thanks very much Piet
Best regards
Dario

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Originally Posted by elvis

a question not directly about rally history .... but who could help me about my search ....

does anybody buy french magazine "échappement" in the forum ? if yes , have they the result for french local event inside (rallyes régionaux et nationaux) ?

thanks a lot.

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It depends !!!!

Does anyone have the first ten finishers of the Circuit des Ardennes and the Tour de Belgique 1974?

regards,
Piet

Piet and to all the others

When you ask those kind of informations, please, specify dates. It's good the limit the search in magazines.

Regards
jorge

If someone is interested....

Rallye Monte Carlo - 21/01/1972 - Final results

1. Sandro Munari - Mario Mannucci (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600)
2. Gérard Larrousse - Jean-Claude Perramond (Porsche 911 S)
3. Rauno Aaltonen - Jean Todt (Datsun 240 Z)
4. Simo Lampinen - Solve Andreasson (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600)
5. Jean-François Piot - Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS 1600)
6. Sergio Barbasio - Piero Sodano (Lancia Fulvia HF 1600)
7. Robert Neyret - Jacques Terramorsi (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
8. Raffaele Pinto - Helmut Eisendle (Fiat 124 Sport Spider 1600)
9. Jean Ragnotti - Pierre Thimonier (Opel Ascona 1900)
10. Pat Moss Carlsson - L. Crellin (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
11. Jacques Henry - Gérard di Nicola (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
12. "Beaumont" - "Biche" (Opel Ascona 1900)
13. Claude Haldi - Paul Keller (Porsche 911 S)
14. Claude Ballot-Lena - Jean Claude Morenas (BMW 2002 TI)
15. Nicolas Koob - Albert Demuth Muller (BMW 2002)
16. Bernard Fiorentino - Maurice Gelin (Simca 1100 S)
17. "Il Pilota" (Leo Pittoni) - Alberto Brambilla (Porsche 911 S)
18. Claude Laurent - Jacques Marche (Daf 55)
19. Francisco Romaozinho - Heitor Morais (Citroen DS 21)
20. Klaus Miersh - Jens Loewenhardt (Opel Ascona 1900)
21. Patrick Lier - Jean-Pierre Frattini (Fiat 128 Rally)
22. W. Luybregis - K. Luybregis (Daf 55)
23. Friedhelm Gaupp - Ulrich Fuchs (Opel Kadett LS)
24. Robert Mucha - Lech Jaworowicz (Polski Fiat)
25. Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
26. Jean-Claude Andruet - Pierre Pagani (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
27. Guy Chasseuil - Christian Baron (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
28. Ove Andersson - John Davenport (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
29. Tony Fall - Mike Wood (Datsun 240 Z)
30. Anders Sigurdson - Ingvar Strom (Saab V4)
31. Timo Makinen - Henry Liddon (Ford Escort RS 1600)
32. Adam Smorawinski - R. Zyskowski (BMW 2002 TI)
33. Jean-Pierre Nicolas - Giy Vial (Renault Alpine A110 1600)
34. Alcide Paganelli - Domenico Russo (Fiat 124 Sport Spider 1600)


Source: Annuario CSAI 1972

Matches with my result (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...lt&rallyid=600) - apart from the spelling mistakes in the CSAI result and the first name of Nicolas's codriver. Wasn't it Michel Vial then?

Guy Michel Vial is his real name !

Regards
jorge

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Originally Posted by kabouter

Matches with my result (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...lt&rallyid=600) - apart from the spelling mistakes in the CSAI result and the first name of Nicolas's codriver. Wasn't it Michel Vial then?

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"Giy Vial" my error... confirm "Guy Michel Vial"

Best regards

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by jrally

It depends !!!!

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ok , so i have to be lucky ..... :\

i start by the most recent result i search , i would like to find final classification of rallye charlemagne 1997 , from 47th to 62th (last driver classifed). for memory : benoit rousselot won this event. podium was completed by jens mulvad and jorgen nielsen.

thanks a lot

Thanks for clearing up the Guy Michel Vial case, Jorge and Giorgio.

Elvis, no time for now to do it. After Christmas, ok !

and...

to all a Happy Christmas !

Regards
jorge

no problem jorge ! ;)

merry christmas to all motorsport forums ! i hope you have been nice during this year for to have your presents ! :p

Buone Feste dall'Italia !

Giorgio

Wesołych Świąt Bożego Narodzenia i Szczęśliwego Nowego Roku 2007!

God Jul til dere alle fra meg her i Norge !!

RiN

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.....from UK

I an' I hopin' allyuh limin' in da islan', mon....from Antigua

Prettige Kerstdagen en een gelukkig 2007!

Thanks to all contributors to the rally history topics in the past year - and I hope we can continue to help each other in the new year :)

Buon Natale e Felice Anno Nuovo !!!!
Dario

Prettige kerstdagen en gelukkig nieuwjaar!

Juha

Prettige Kerstdagen en een gelukkig Nieuwjaar.

Piet

Joyeuses fêtes et bonne année à tous ! :)

I have some questions about 1975 WRC season;

1. Number of stages on Swedish Rally
2. Number of stages on Rally Acropolis
3. Number of stages on Rallye du Maroc, where did it start and finish
4. Number of stages on Rallye San Remo,date (01-04 Oct or 04-10 Oct?)
5. Number of stages on Tour de Corse

6. Rob Collinge-Rob Combes, Alpine Renault A110 and
Jack Simonian- Peter Huth, Renault 17 Gordini
Privateers or Alpine-Renault works cars on Safari Rally?

7.Hans Schuller-Dieter Steinmann, Datsun 260Z and
Mike Kirkland-Bruce Field, Datsun 260Z
Privateers or part of Datsun works team on Safari Rally?

8.Achim Warmbold-John Davenport, BMW 2002
Privateer or works entry at Rallye de Portugal?

9. Jacques Henry-Maurice Gelin, Alpine Renault A110
Privateer or part of Alpine-Renault works team at Monte & Tour de Corse?

10. Amilcare Ballestrieri-Mauro Mannini, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Enrico Svizzero-Gianfranco Masetto, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Privateers or part of Alfa works team (Entrant:Autodelta?) at Rallye San Remo?

Jean-Claude Andruet-Yves Jouanny, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Privateers or part of Alfa works team at Tour de Corse?

That about covers it for 1975.

Does anyone have a clue?

Thank you!

I have:

Rallye San Remo,date (01-04 Oct. 1975)

Amilcare Ballestrieri-Mauro Mannini, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT (Alfa works team)

Source: Rally Sanremo - Franco Bonadonna

Regards

Giorgio

Someone knows...

17 marzo 1950 - Rally des Neiges
???? Gurzeler - ???? Schmalz
???? Endrich - ???? Stoll
???? Bariswil - ???? Marchand

7 settembre 1950 - Rally d'Interlaken
Walter Ringgenberg - ???? Muller
???? Wyss - ???? Heusser

19 marzo 1953 - Rally des Neiges
???? Grandjean - ???? Luthi
???? Meroz - ???? Hunsperger

25 maggio 1956 - 25° Rally de Genève
???? Beyer - ???? Perrot
Bruno Martignoni - ???? Vanini

20 giugno 1957 - 26° Rally de Genève
???? Brugger - W.???? Tiefenthaler
???? Lier - ???? Wirz
???? Meyrat - ???? Meyer

11 giugno 1959 - Rally de Genève
Jean Jacques Thuner - ???? Bruno
???? Schligler - ???? Bovilleux
???? Egli - ???? Gurzeler

29 gennaio 1966 - Rally des Neiges
Willy Meier - ???? Bianchi
???? Savary - ???? Hess
???? Cuénoud - ???? Gret
???? Erard - ???? Vuillemin
???? Fatio - François Hoffman

18 giugno 1970 - Rally de Genève
J.???? L.???? Maurin - J.???? P.???? Mourrier

11 ottobre 1974 - Rally di Lugano
Carlo Bianchi - ???? Silva

10 ottobre 1975 - Rally di Lugano
???? Locher - ???? Krebs

18 marzo 1978 - Criterium Jurassien
Philippe Carron - D.???? Siggen
Jean Pierre Laederach - M.???? Wyder

25 febbraio 1979 - Rally des Neiges
André Savary - J.???? Bubloz
Bernard Chenevière - ???? Busset

Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

I have:

Rallye San Remo,date (01-04 Oct. 1975)

Amilcare Ballestrieri-Mauro Mannini, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT (Alfa works team)

Source: Rally Sanremo - Franco Bonadonna

Regards

Giorgio

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Thanks mate!

So, I reckon Svizzero-Masetto were privateers.

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Originally Posted by Kaps

I have some questions about 1975 WRC season;

1. Number of stages on Swedish Rally
2. Number of stages on Rally Acropolis
3. Number of stages on Rallye du Maroc, where did it start and finish
4. Number of stages on Rallye San Remo,date (01-04 Oct or 04-10 Oct?)
5. Number of stages on Tour de Corse

6. Rob Collinge-Rob Combes, Alpine Renault A110 and
Jack Simonian- Peter Huth, Renault 17 Gordini
Privateers or Alpine-Renault works cars on Safari Rally?

7.Hans Schuller-Dieter Steinmann, Datsun 260Z and
Mike Kirkland-Bruce Field, Datsun 260Z
Privateers or part of Datsun works team on Safari Rally?

8.Achim Warmbold-John Davenport, BMW 2002
Privateer or works entry at Rallye de Portugal?

9. Jacques Henry-Maurice Gelin, Alpine Renault A110
Privateer or part of Alpine-Renault works team at Monte & Tour de Corse?

10. Amilcare Ballestrieri-Mauro Mannini, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Enrico Svizzero-Gianfranco Masetto, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Privateers or part of Alfa works team (Entrant:Autodelta?) at Rallye San Remo?

Jean-Claude Andruet-Yves Jouanny, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Privateers or part of Alfa works team at Tour de Corse?

That about covers it for 1975.

Does anyone have a clue?

Thank you!

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I've returned so let's get to work !!!!

1. Number of stages on Swedish Rally
40 of wich 4 were cancelled

2. Number of stages on Rally Acropolis
49 special stages

3. Number of stages on Rallye du Maroc, where did it start and finish
9 stages start and finnish in Casablanca

4. Number of stages on Rallye San Remo,date (01-04 Oct or 04-10 Oct?)
39 special stages 01-04 october

5. Number of stages on Tour de Corse
10

6. Rob Collinge-Rob Combes, Alpine Renault A110
Jack Simonian- Peter Huth, Renault 17 Gordini
Privateers or Alpine-Renault works cars on Safari Rally?

Both works car. Entered by Alpine-Renault

7.Hans Schuller-Dieter Steinmann, Datsun 260Z and
Mike Kirkland-Bruce Field, Datsun 260Z
Privateers or part of Datsun works team on Safari Rally?

Hans Schuller entered by D.T.Dobie, Ltd so a works car
Mike Kirkland entered privaterely


8.Achim Warmbold-John Davenport, BMW 2002
Privateer or works entry at Rallye de Portugal?
Entered by KWS Autoeknic so, a works car, I think !

9. Jacques Henry-Maurice Gelin, Alpine Renault A110
Privateer or part of Alpine-Renault works team at Monte & Tour de Corse?
privateer in Monte Carlo and Corsica

10. Amilcare Ballestrieri-Mauro Mannini, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Enrico Svizzero-Gianfranco Masetto, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Privateers or part of Alfa works team (Entrant:Autodelta?) at Rallye San Remo?
Ballestrieri works entry and Svizzero privateer !


Jean-Claude Andruet-Yves Jouanny, Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT
Privateers or part of Alfa works team at Tour de Corse?
works car

regards
jorge

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows...

11 giugno 1959 - Rally de Genève
Jean Jacques Thuner - ???? Bruno
FERNAND Schligler - ???? Bovilleux
???? Egli - ???? Gurzeler

18 marzo 1978 - Criterium Jurassien
Jean Pierre Laederach - MICHEL Wyder

25 febbraio 1979 - Rally des Neiges
André Savary - JO Bubloz

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Just only those three names
Janusz

Hey jorge, thanks a million man! You're priceless!

Just two more to finish off 1975;

1.So, at Safari Schuller-Steinmann in Datsun 260Z were entered by D.T. Dobie, and I suppose Harry Kallstrom-Sture Bostrom were also entered by D.T. Dobie, although in a Datsun 160J?
Also, these were the only two Datsun's works cars on Safari?

2. Bror Danielsson-Ulf Sundberg in Opel Ascona at Swedish, part of Opel Euro Handler team or privateers?

I reckon that would be all I need for 1975.

I just pray I reach 1982 as fast as I can, 'cos from then on, I hopefully wouldn't have to ask so many questions. :uhoh:

Very thanks, Janusz !

Giorgio

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Originally Posted by Kaps

Just two more to finish off 1975;

1.So, at Safari Schuller-Steinmann in Datsun 260Z were entered by D.T. Dobie, and I suppose Harry Kallstrom-Sture Bostrom were also entered by D.T. Dobie, although in a Datsun 160J?
Also, these were the only two Datsun's works cars on Safari?

2. Bror Danielsson-Ulf Sundberg in Opel Ascona at Swedish, part of Opel Euro Handler team or privateers?

I reckon that would be all I need for 1975.

I just pray I reach 1982 as fast as I can, 'cos from then on, I hopefully wouldn't have to ask so many questions. :uhoh:

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D.T.Dobie entry also for Zully Remtulla and Danielsson entry by Dealer Opel Team Sweden.

Regards
jorge

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Originally Posted by elvis

ok , so i have to be lucky ..... :\

i start by the most recent result i search , i would like to find final classification of rallye charlemagne 1997 , from 47th to 62th (last driver classifed). for memory : benoit rousselot won this event. podium was completed by jens mulvad and jorgen nielsen.

thanks a lot

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Hi Elvis, as promised here they are !

47-Legros-Wiard Renault Clio Williams (N3) + 17.26
48-Lerbut-Cannone (Peugeot 106 Rallye) (N1) + 17.54
49-Thiriet-Thiriet (Ford Escort Cosworth) (F12) + 18.35
50-Cousin-Cousin (Peugeot 106 XSi) (A6) + 18.49
51-Howlett-Howlett (Peugeot 306 S16) (A7) + 19.05
52-Eaton-Taylor (Ford Escort Cosworth) (n4) + 19.44
53-Derhille-Suret (Opel manta) (F13) + 20.26
54-Bruyère-Bruyère (Peugeot 309 GTi) (N3) + 21.52
55-Coussin-Duthoit (BMW 325i) (FA8) + 23.16
56-Levéque-Bonnière (Renault 4) (F9) + 23.30
57-Lorette-Rousseau (Peugeot 205 GTi) (A6) + 24.07
58-Hanna-Lemonnier (Citroen Visa GTi) (FN2) + 24.15
59-Trinel-Morien (Peugeot 205 GTi) (F11) + 25.16
60-Schekenveld-Wortel (Toyota Starlet) (A5) + 25.44
61-Berkenbosch-Van der Zalm (Peugeot 205 GTi) (A7) + 27.09
62-Wallart-Leleu (R4) (F9) + 27.45

Regards
jorge

Not sure about Achim Warmbold entrant. Previously he (and Waldegard in 73 RAC) was entered as "BMW Motorsport Gmbh". Seem to recall he ran his own BMW operation at one time (before switching to Mazda?) so may not have been works by then?

Yes, FAL, in 1973 they entered by BMW Motorsport but in 1975 they didn't one official team so ... my doubts also about it.

Regards
jorge

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Originally Posted by Giorgio

Someone knows...



20 giugno 1957 - 26° Rally de Genève
???? Brugger - W.???? Tiefenthaler
???? Lier - ???? Wirz
???? Meyrat - ???? Meyer


Thanks in advance

Giorgio

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1957
Stefan Brugger
Patrick Lier
Fausto Meyrat

Thanks again jorge!

As for Warmbold, I tried to google that KSW Autoeknic (or could it be Autoteknic?), but, either way, couldn't find anything.
I have serious doubts that it was not a works entry, but, as I said, couldn't find anything to confirm that.

I know I said I'm finished with 1975, but I still need some confirmations:

L. Carlsson-B. de Jong, Opel Ascona at Monte Carlo, entered by Opel Euro Handler Team or ?

A. Kullang-C.G. Andersson, Opel Ascona, entered at Swedish by Opel Euro Handler Team or Dealer Team Opel Sweden, or something else?

Peugeots entered at Safari as Marshalls(EA)Ltd for O. Andersson, H. Mikkola & T. Makinen. Is this correct?

Peugeots entered at Rally du Maroc as Team Esso Peugeot for H. Mikkola, T. Makinen, B. Consten & P. Pagani. Is this correct?

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Originally Posted by jrally

Hi Elvis, as promised here they are !

47-Legros-Wiard Renault Clio Williams (N3) + 17.26
48-Lerbut-Cannone (Peugeot 106 Rallye) (N1) + 17.54
49-Thiriet-Thiriet (Ford Escort Cosworth) (F12) + 18.35
50-Cousin-Cousin (Peugeot 106 XSi) (A6) + 18.49
51-Howlett-Howlett (Peugeot 306 S16) (A7) + 19.05
52-Eaton-Taylor (Ford Escort Cosworth) (n4) + 19.44
53-Derhille-Suret (Opel manta) (F13) + 20.26
54-Bruyère-Bruyère (Peugeot 309 GTi) (N3) + 21.52
55-Coussin-Duthoit (BMW 325i) (FA8) + 23.16
56-Levéque-Bonnière (Renault 4) (F9) + 23.30
57-Lorette-Rousseau (Peugeot 205 GTi) (A6) + 24.07
58-Hanna-Lemonnier (Citroen Visa GTi) (FN2) + 24.15
59-Trinel-Morien (Peugeot 205 GTi) (F11) + 25.16
60-Schekenveld-Wortel (Toyota Starlet) (A5) + 25.44
61-Berkenbosch-Van der Zalm (Peugeot 205 GTi) (A7) + 27.09
62-Wallart-Leleu (R4) (F9) + 27.45

Regards
jorge

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excellent jorge ! thank you very much ! ;)

a quick question jorge .... before your informations i have Howlett/Howlett 33th ... the rest of the position looks good. so who are 33th in your classification ?