http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65998
Y'awl boys are in a heap 'o trouble!
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65998
Y'awl boys are in a heap 'o trouble!
How stupid is that? I'm sure it wasn't deliberate, but that makes it even more stupid, because they ought to have realised that dawdling along on the racing line and getting in the way of others brings with it the risk of penalty.
However, I would add that this used to happen all the time in the old days of a single session and, unless the blocking was of absurd proportions, everyone just used to live with it.
Because of the urgency of being sure they beat the rain. Is it possible that the McLaren drivers forgot they weren't last in the session (as they try to be, and uaually are) You only really get two shots at a hot lap in Q3. Don't be surprised if they get penalized!
McLaren made a serious mistake and they have to pay the price for that. Footage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_GjtJ9SIY
Nice job Doc!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj
Whoever was in the second of the two McLarens there suddenly gets off the racing line afterwards. Clearly, they had realised their mistake. Again, I'd say it's unintentional, but a very silly, basic error.
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...42091&PO=42091
They are playing every card they have for max points!
Well usually they lose their best times or the Q3 times, so we might see them starting 9th and 10th!Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
Let's see how they do when not starting upfront! :D
If the car lasts and nothing else happens, I'm sure he'll make a steady, if unspectacular, rise through the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
+1.......... whats good for one (re: Glock) should also be applied to others i feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
It should be interesting. I'm not sure it will help him. But he likes this track,Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
and I think the smooth surface plays into his hand a little if he runs heavy!
It could work against him if he has to start on intermediates,
and have to deal with a rapidly drying line. He has a tendency to torture his fronts in those conditions!
I really am impressed with his patience, and perspective. Love him, or hate him, he is a driver to be admired.
To take a leaf out of Tinchote's book...
Stupid Rules = Stupid Consequences.
Dang... :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj
Regardless of whether that was intentional, that was both negligent and extremely dangerous. For that, both drivers should be rightly penalised... drivers in the past have been dumped down the grid for much lesser incidents.
They should both get 5 place penalties at the very least. To cruise round at such a slow speed when other cars are on fast laps is bad enough, to do so on the racing line is just stupid. I'd actually send them to the back of the grid, whilst the FIA should create a rule which means the cars have to run at a sensible speed back to the pits after there qualy lap.
The potential for this kind of thing to happen was there from the moment Q3 was changed, and it would have made sense to include some sort of rule within the changes about drivers on the cooling down laps - perhaps they should lap within 110% of their quickest lap time or something like that.
Still, even if that happened, they'd be lapping slower than someone on a qualy lap and the risk of a quick car coming across a slow car at the wrong time would still be there, as it always has been.
The only way to eliminate this kind of thing entirely is to have one car/one lap 'shoot-out' qualifying again.
Now we shall see how fair the rules will be applied this year. In the past years, minimal "blocking" cost ten grid places (and at Monza one year, i would have not called it blocking, but a penalty was imposed anyway), and last year, doing it to your team mate, while safely parked in the pits cost five grid places, and this was far worse, especially from the safety standpoint, so.......
meanwhile the replacement for RD was like, blocking, what blocking, why they got over as far as they could.....and there were those who thought things might change with RD not being around.....
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66021
Both drivers penalised 5 places.
Maybe the rule should be changed now.
So it's clear!
The grid will look like that: 3 Trulli, 4 Kubica, 5 Heidfeld, 6 Webber, 7 Alonso, 8 Kovalainen, 9 Hamilton, 10 Glock.
Jarno and Toyota, please try to make it to the finish without troubles! This may be the best chance to fight for a podium position in this season.
Maybe, but with previous qualifying rules there wasn't the neccessity to milk the cool down lap for all it was worth. It's a dumb rule.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
In other news, Trulli starting third! Wow! And Webbers sixth place looks pretty handy...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7309337.stm
Aye, is on BBC as well now. This is a good decision from the FIA.
Halleluja, justice prevails! I was afraid that 'higher forces' would prevent Lewis from being penalised for an obvious infringement of the rules but fortunately that was not the case.
I agree, it is a fair punishment. Given the likeliness of afternoon rain the penalty will probably not mean much anyway. Bring on the race! :D
Trulli ends up 3rd, amazing result. All aboard the Trulli train! :D
A fair outcome.
C'mon Jarno! What are the chances of rain in the race?
60 % ...
:up: I agree, however I would also say that it is symptomatic of having a pairing of inexperienced drivers in fast cars... :!:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
Therefore I would put a large amount of responsibility on the pitwall for this one; they should have notified the drivers to stay off the racing line, there are transponders on all cars after all, and McLaren placed great stock a few years ago in the fact they had pitwall technology with the ability to find gaps in the traffic for their cars...
If nobody reminds the drivers, sometimes it's not the first thing on their mind if it is not ingrained into them from several seasons of F1.
Bet they won't forget again tho... :laugh:
It was the McLarens today but it could easily be another car\team next race that gets in the way when you have half a dozen cars practically idling their cars around the circuit while qualifying is still on because fuel strategy has usurped lap times in degree of importance.
Some unlucky sap is going to have a slower car change his line or come across a puttering car at full tilt either entering or exiting a corner and it will be a disaster. It doesn't matter who's at the wheel of either car. You can't have these massive differentials in speed. Do we really have to show these guys a clip of the Gilles Villeneuve tragedy to drive this point home?
They should pull their car off at pit exit until the remaining qualifiers have passed if they're going to continue with these silly rules.
Great stuff from Trulii :D Pino would be pleased!Quote:
Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
I wouldnt hold my breath re Mark because id bet the car wont last 5 laps!
And this one going to be pretty long I bet ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
Exactly 1 hour and 30 min... hopefully :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Sorry Pino - Jarno can finsish 2nd behind Mark Tommorow! :D
Good qualifying session for the Ferraris they are clearly the cars to beat this weekend. Jarno Trulli having a very good session. McLarens clearly are struggling even without the 5 grid place penalty. Williams coming back to Earth with a bump today, they have no pace.
I hope rain comes down for the race.
Bourdais is hoping for "crazy" weather in order to make something of his qualifying position. Anyway, can only wish that the Seb's do well in their second race.
7 Alonzo ;) , 8 Kovalainian :) , 9 Hamilton :D Need I say more?Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Oh yes Fred is running heavy! One or both of them may take him off the start.
If not they may find themselves way behind the leaders by the first pit stops!
Ah yes, very good point. Another Barrichello/Raikkonen situation could arise there. But I think the overtaking opportunities at Sepang should allow the McLarens, despite their relative lack of pace compared to the Ferraris, to get past a heavily-fuelled Renault. Let's see!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
Kovalainen has the dirty side so it just might be that Hamilton is 7th in the first corner, that is if they are lighter than Alonso and it's not wet. :)
Acording to this linkQuote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.a...42091&PO=42091
Freds running heavy. We don't know what fuel strategy the McLarens are on!
On a separate note. I was glad Hamilton reassured me he is human!
I wouldn't sell Fred short in this situation! Although I believe he is much more interested in racing his race,
than screwing with someone else's
^^^^^^^^^^^
The above link has been changed to:
http://www.itv-f1.com/news_article.aspx?id=42091
Tazio, remember my prediction last night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
'Alonso will be in front of one of the McLaren's.'
I never thought it would have come to light!
Well, I hope that Ferrari will be able to win. :)