What do you think of this new toy?

Mind you, Apple isn't aiming for world domination with this phone, i think they realize they can only piece of the pie. Biggest selling point is their image, Nokia can't ever compete with that. And as long as there are people who like the image, Apple have customers.

Very true. But with this sort of product it's important to sell volume so that the price of manufacturing comes down. That's why Microsoft can sell an XBox 360 for cheaper than an iPhone which is made up of a lot less silicon and plastic and so on. Apple manage to make a good profit because iPod's sell in big volumes so the manufacturing costs are low.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/iSupp...od-10896.shtml

It's a harder market to break into and I think people are a lot more educated than in the past and Apple will find it hard to sell 10 million of these things. But of course image will sell a few million no doubt.

I thought XPoks was sold at a loss and real money was made on software?

Although to be fair Apple have only predicted a 1% share of market, so they're not exactly declaring war on Nokia.

1% of a bloody big market, mind...

Seems to be a bit of a problem with its name. From what I heard on the radio today Cisco Systems already markets a product called an IPhone and have been doing so for several years. Apple approached Cisco several times about using the name, each time Cisco refusing to allow it. So Apple decided to launch it with the name anyway, and now the legal beagles are circling.

CarlMetro, read posts 15 and 16 again. ;)

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Seems to be a bit of a problem with its name. From what I heard on the radio today Cisco Systems already markets a product called an IPhone and have been doing so for several years. Apple approached Cisco several times about using the name, each time Cisco refusing to allow it. So Apple decided to launch it with the name anyway, and now the legal beagles are circling.

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Maybe they should rename it iMoan.

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Originally Posted by janneppi

CarlMetro, read posts 15 and 16 again. ;)

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My bad, I didn't read all the first page ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Well the thing is Nokia have little to fear from Apple on this front. When Apple released the iPod it was releasing something to a fairly new market and it was innovative. The market isn't new and the product isn't innovative plus like the article says it doesn't do 3G so there's a big hole there.........

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EDGE is more or less 2.5-3g depending on coverage strength.

Not that I'll buy it but...

From the FWIW department.

According to the press here, CISCO has a trademark on i-phone...

Apple's legal position is appearantly they were attempting to avoid any similiarties in their negotiations but that i-phone is different enough from iPhone...