Fuel issue- No penalty for BMW/Williams- McLaren to appeal

the temperature of the fuel samples? :confused: :s

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Originally Posted by GridGirl

Just when you think its over and sit back to reflect, something else happens. How long after a race ends do results become final?

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When everything is signed off on by the stewards and all appeals have been exhausted. If nothing goes wrong, the night of the race. If something does and there's an appeal, 2-3 weeks...

While I would feel sorry for Kimi, a man who should have been WDC before now, I would be elated if Hamilton was granted those extra points to take the title.

Not because I am a McLaren or Hamilton fan, but because I am a selfish British racing driver, looking for anything which may make industry look at motorsport as an outlet for their sponsorship funds, instead of wasting it on football, or heaven forbid - those ruddy olympics in 2012! If it stays with Kimi, then the press will ignore motorsport in the UK again, and it'll be another year before we stand a better chance of finding potentially interested sponsors.

Let's see what the scrutineers & stewards make of it. It won't be the first championship won/lost in the stewards office.

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

It's a tricky one, but I hope it can be resolved without affecting the championship standings. It would be a hollow victory for Hamilton to be handed the title in such circumstances.

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I think suspected drivers will get to keep race points, However they will be fined $1,000,000,000 plus their first born child.

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Originally Posted by donKey jote

the temperature of the fuel samples? :confused: :s

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Yes, I was wondering about that. If the fuel is chilled, then you can fit more in a tank and it's been banned since the later days of the turbo. But that's not really been an issue since refuelling was reintroduced (although you could increase the effective flow rate, if not the actual flow rate, given the decrease in volume) - but how do you tell after the race? Is it based on samples taken from the rigs rather than the cars?

Alas, if precedent is anything to go by, the teams will be fined and docked constructors points but the drivers championship will be unaffected. But we all know how inconsistent the FIA can be...
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/news/re.../id/2681/.html

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

This will surely prove to be a fuss over nothing, but if it is true that those samples throw up genuine illegalities that merit disqualification, which is possible, what should the FIA do?

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Well if they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour McLaren and Hamilton.

If they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA don't disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour Ferrari.

So hopefully the FIA will fix the result of tests to make sure the fuel samples are perfectly legal, that way the conspiracy theorists won't have anything to go on about :p :

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Originally Posted by Somebody

Yes, I was wondering about that. If the fuel is chilled, then you can fit more in a tank and it's been banned since the later days of the turbo. But that's not really been an issue since refuelling was reintroduced (although you could increase the effective flow rate, if not the actual flow rate, given the decrease in volume) - but how do you tell after the race? Is it based on samples taken from the rigs rather than the cars?

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http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public...df?Openelement

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6.5.4 No fuel on board the car may be more than ten degrees centigrade below ambient temperature

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Originally Posted by VkmSpouge

Well if they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour McLaren and Hamilton.

If they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA don't disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour Ferrari.

So hopefully the FIA will fix the result of tests to make sure the fuel samples are perfectly legal, that way the conspiracy theorists won't have anything to go on about :p :

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Right on :up: :D

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Originally Posted by N. Jones

If those cars get excluded after everything that has happened in this season F1 is going to no longer be one of the sports I watch. This just goes to show what a farce this season is!

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Can you elaborate a little more on your position? You think that cars shouldn't be scrutineered because you may not like the consequences? :confused:

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Originally Posted by VkmSpouge

Well if they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour McLaren and Hamilton.

If they were prove to be illegal then if the FIA don't disqualify them conspiracy theorists will say this clearly proves the FIA favour Ferrari.

So hopefully the FIA will fix the result of tests to make sure the fuel samples are perfectly legal, that way the conspiracy theorists won't have anything to go on about :p :

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Like it. Some might say you're not being cynical enough, but not me...