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:p : Hhmmmm.... and If you are not willing to learn from history,Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
You are doomed to repeat it !!!
Mad Max's Dictatorial governing of the FIA has brought us to these repulsive actions that are ruining the reputation of Ron Dennis.
No matter how much one adores Mad Max and his cronies...
Ron Dennis has done nothing... that would deserve this treatment !!!
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exactly. The guy doesnt deserve this. When I used to think of F1 , Mclaren always came to mind. They are a icon in F1 and benchmark of what a team's performance should be. Max trying to ban them for 2 seasons is totally absurd. Now he has a budget to make himself look good at Mclarens expense. This guy is too much. Bernie I think should stay but Max gotta go on the next election which is like 2009 or even sooner if I had my way.
Don't get me wrong. I don't like Max Mosley, let alone adore him, and I'm a big admirer of Ron Dennis, but there's no need to wish death on anyone, nor is there any need to blame the actions of Oswald Mosley on his son.Quote:
Originally Posted by trumperZ06
I agree, Max should go. He's been in charge since 1991, are the Big 2 Motorsports better now then when he took over? Some of his decisions are, quite frankly baffling, and out of touch with reality. As President of the F1A he shouldn't be carrying out what appear personal vendettas against teams he doesn't like.
As far as F1 goes, certainly, yes. F1 is much bigger and more popular than it was in 1991.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
You're just like Adam and Eve you are Beans :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
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Ah, yes, but, is it better?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
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Originally Posted by AndyRAC
If there was a pesonal vendatta that would have made the pusinshment massive at the first hearing....but that did not happen.
If you do not want to read, then watch Godfather I "Tell Mike it was nothing personal...."
Maxievillie politics has no role in in determining the fair application of law to facts....however now the heir apparent (as refferred to by another poster in this thread), has leaked out the following:
from:http://msn.foxsports.com/motor/story/7237722
and out of the mouth of Todt:
"Even the president of FIA confirmed the penalty was soft, but we know in this business a lot of things are taken into consideration and I can understand that."
"It's much better to have a championship with all the drivers - I'm not arguing about that. "But lots of things were taken into consideration in order to favour the championship more, rather than this single bad case."
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Uncensored WMSC Transcripts all the words that were BLacked/BLOCKED out can be read by copy and pasting them on a blank text file. (text file being they only show the asci with no bold or whatever.) You can read it all.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/khbsvl
I thought I would show how incompetent Max Mosely and his administration is and how much we need him to be voted out of FIA, If he doesn't fine his own administration for blurting out what was supposed to be the basis for their smoking gun in fining a absurd amount of money. I guess he needed the budget to make precedence for glorifying himself as the president of FIA that made changes to FIA that will be remembered for generations. BUT Max you stole that money from Mclaren. History will alway know that it was Mclaren money that paid for it. You will be remembered as the great extortionist of FIA when we reflect back in history"wait a minute where did that money come from". Thats what we will remembered. call it what you want MAX but your a criminal with a suit.
some examples with pages
stuff like
using a valve.” p.9 1st para.
Nigel TOZZI
He was paid around 300 000 to 400 000 pounds per annum. Is that correct? p.28
We found that the
forward push was better for us, under all circumstances. If you consider the technical schedule that
I distributed both this time and last, it includes a large section on weight and weight-saving,
specifically at the rear of the car. For us, the policy this year has been to move forward as quickly
as we can. This has been limited not by where we wanted to be, but where we could reach. The
engineering has been influenced in large part by this. In response to questions earlier, that is what
occupied Mike; it was the focus of most of the projects in which he was involved.
Max MOSLEY
With the aim of moving the weight forward.
Patrick LOWE
Yes. As you know, we had a small issue with our gearbox introduction in Hungary. This was a
great example of that policy.
p.46-47
Pedro DE LA ROSA
No, but I must tell you why. When Mike told me the figure, it was so radically different from ours
that there was no way that our care could ever achieve that. The whole philosophy of our car was
to move the weight forward. We had managed to take some weight from the gearbox. There was
no point. At the previous stage, I thought the information might be important and that we could try
it in the simulator, but then the figures were so different.
p.52
Nigel TOZZI
Let us look at Paragraph 20 of your Witness Statement. You say that, on 22 March, Mr Coughlan
told you that he believed the Ferrari system to be based on a “double-rear master cylinder with a
spring”, which initially delayed rear braking, then increased it gradually. You gave evidence
saying that you did not understand what he was talking about.
Pedro DE LA ROSA
Yes, I am a driver. I am not an engineer. When he started talking about the double-rear master
cylinder with a spring, that was too much to me.
p.54
locking the fronts every time we used the break
do something to adjust the brake balance.
“which apparently delays the rear braking initially,
then increases it gradually. We get the same results using a valve”.
It is based on problems that we had
in our Week 48 November tests: we were locking the fronts every time we used the break and we
already started to think that we should do something to adjust the brake balance.
It just astounds me how a organization that fines their constituents the sum of 100 million greenbacks can post their transcripts in its entirety unedited or in a easy situation to be read easily with a few copy and paste moves. Albeit they have removed it by now and placed a newer more fitting edited version but the damages been done. I wonder if they will fine themselves because this is like similar to Mclaren situation, How can you possibly expect Ron Denis to babysit his whole organization. suspending the persons involved in the first place for a few years and not the organization.Max Mosely you cannot expect all the team principles to have ESP and Scan their employees every other day. Smoking gun or not this judgment is totally off. suspend everyone that was involved from FIA but not a TEAM for crying out loud. I understand the actions of what these overzealous employees did was wrong but you can fine the team and take their points for the year.That like saying shoot ALL germans cause of the Nazis during WW2 or shoot all the japanese cause of HOJO. This judgment went too far. I say suspend alonso, pedro, coughlan & Stephny from FIA 2 seasons and then take alonso point and the points he contributed to the constructor. Thats more reasonable. Then give alonso a free pass for next year cause he is the reigning champion for sporting measure. NOT the whole team. Max just wanted to humiliate Ron Denis