so if they bahave in cruel non-logical ways, should we answer in the same way? aren't we supposed to be inteligent creatures?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
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so if they bahave in cruel non-logical ways, should we answer in the same way? aren't we supposed to be inteligent creatures?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Foxes are regarded as pests by the farming community because they attack chickens etc. Foxhunting has been banned, but the killing of foxes will continue through other means as long as they present a threat to farming.
So the choice is really between the different methods of killing.
Do you believe its more humane for a fox to be hunted down and killed by dogs, or to be poisoned, trapped or shot, none of which offer the same guarantee of a rapid death as the hunt?
How about the human impact on those who would normally be employed looking after the dogs and horses involved in the hunt?
What about the hunting dogs, now there is no demand for them what will be done about them?
I'm afraid in my opinion this is about the Islington lot and townies in general (and I am one myself) ramming their beliefs and values down the throats of the rural population who are actually involved and affected by foxes without careful consideration.
The farmers should find better ways to protect their farm animals than killing. If they can't, they should seek other employment. It's like keeping your garbage can wide open and complaining about rats. We have foxes and we have chickens, however I have never heard a fox kill a chicken here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
Life is more important than employment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
The hunting dogs have a maximum career of 10 years. The hunting dog breeders should have been given a notice 10 years before actually banning the hunt. Those who don't want to keep their dogs as pets should have stopped breeding them during that transit period.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dylan H
OK I will PM you :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
This got rather heated the last time it was discussed.
We should be above hunting and killing animals for fun by now.
What the hell are you talking about :confused: Farmers should seek other employment because Foxes kill their animals? :erm: I'd like you to suggest a way that a Farmer could protect all of their animals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Also Eki- Foxes can't kill all the animals they kill. You compare them to squirrels saving nuts? Meat goes rotten in a week :dozey:
Simple, you put walls, a roof and a floor that a fox can't penetrate around them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Foxes don't know that (and they may also eat rotten meat). Seeing a lot of chickens together is an unnatural sight for a fox. It doesn't realize that they will still be there tomorrow, so it tries to kill as many as it can while they still are there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
How can a farmer keep over 500 sheep in one building?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Do foxes kill sheep?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Building is not necessary. High enough electrified fence that also goes deep enough so that a fox can't dig its way through is enough.
By your immature response, I see that you concede the argument? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
:rolleyes: