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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
Good point. In terms of track construction, access roads, grandstands, pits and other infrastructure, the track shouldn't cost more than a quarter of that amount.
I suppose parts of it could be used for lerner drivers, advanced learner drivers, wannabe racing drivers, kart racing, test tracks among other things, but the income would have to be massive to pay off the 680 million.
Even if this project takes off, Albert Park will still have the race for a couple of years, but after that it's really doubtful.
This year the mainstream media down here (The age, herald sun, etc. ) were very dismissive of the whole F1 thing, and there was so much talk about Victoria hosting so many events that victorians are sick of it. So I wouldn't be surprised to find out that victoria loses the Grand Prix real soon.
If Bernie and Tilke have their hands in it, you can bet half of that is probably going straight into their pockets.
I like to refer to a quote by Pete Dye, who designed the Bulle Rock golf course near my home, when asked about his award winning design; "I did not undo God's work". Tilke's tracks look like the work of a bulldozer and a grader and little more. I'll give him credit for the actual architechture at the tracks, but the layouts need way more elevation changes. I think that is the element that, until Turkey has been the greatest complaint I have with Tilke's tracks. The tracks lack any kind of interesting terrain, and in some instances, they ppear to have actually avoided interesting terrain. It may be the fact that they have been built in deserts, re-claimed swamps and such, however the Turkish track is the only one of his creations I can actually look forward to on the schedule.
No, no no, not Tilke please, his circuits are all identikit, he ruined Hockenheim, the rest aren't much better. What's the hold he has over Bernie et al?
Osterreichring too.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
i recently watched a video on board from that track in around 85 i think, with cheever driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
then i thought of the A1 ring in comparison to it.
made me quite sad really :(
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Bernie actually owned some shares of (or was a partner) in Tilke's firm & that was why Tilke was mostly used in building new courses to add to F1's schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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Originally Posted by zoostation
I know :( Fantastic circuit defiled and butched by Tilke. I think he should design a fast flowing circuit like the Osterreichring.
It's funny, but when I watch F1 on the telly, I don't realise how mundane any circuit is, because all I see are cars approaching corners most of the time.
To make it worse, when the cars are halfway down the track, my TV cannot define the colour, so it simply comes out as sorta grey or white.
all i can say is good god i hope they build it AND QUICK!!!
As anybody who has been to Willowbank would say, Queensland has nothing when it comes to permanent tracks. (i really hate that craphole caled willowbank)
and the location is fantastic. right between brisbane and the coast... and PUBLIC TRANSPORT ACCESSABLE!!!! Something you cant do at willowbank.
We Queenslanders are dying for a proper racetrack! Indy is our best track, and its only there one weekend a year!!! Lakeside is no longer good for proper racing (unfortuately), Willowbank is absolutely woeful in every sense of the word!!!!! i dont care if its a ****ty tilke track, we need something and we need it NOW!!!!
So bring on this supertrack!