Ferrari F2007 Superiority

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8th April 2007, 10:59
andreag

Quote:

Originally Posted by jens

Ferrari hasn't been quick at Sepang for many years.

On the first 8 years of Sepang (all except this year), the points achived by the teams were:

Ferrari: 85.
Renault: 53.
Others: 44.
McLaren 41.
Williams: 37.

Ferrari was indeed quicker than any other team.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jens

Sakhir on the contrary has been very suitable circuit for Ferrari in previous years.

On the past three years racing in Bahrain, the points were:

Others: 33.
Renault: 28.
McLaren: 27.
Ferrari: 26.
Williams: 10.

Bahrain doesn't seem to be as good for Ferrari as Sepang has been watching at the statistics (the real statistics, I mean).

BTW, Alonso has won 2 of the 3 Bahrain races, scoring 23 points; more than any other driver; Schumi is second with 18, Trulli third with 13, Kini fourth with 12, and Button fifth with 11 points.

Post edited. Thanks F1boat for remember me 1999, that improved Ferrari's advantage over the rest on Sepang.
8th April 2007, 11:05
F1boat

You are wrong. Sepang first race was 1999 and Irvine won!
8th April 2007, 11:10
jens

Statistics? Instead of that let's compare race pace. :)

In 2004:
MAL - M. Schumacher managed to beat Montoya by a small margin.
BAH - Ferrari clearly dominant, scoring 1-2.

In 2005:
MAL - M. Schumacher scoring lucky 7th place.
BAH - Yeah, no points, but Michael was running at the tail of Alonso before retiring!

In 2006:
BAH - Michael fought for race win.
MAL - Ferraris finished 5th and 6th.
8th April 2007, 11:12
F1boat

Quote:

Originally Posted by jens

Statistics? Instead of that let's compare race pace. :)

In 2004:
MAL - M. Schumacher managed to beat Montoya by a small margin.
BAH - Ferrari clearly dominant, scoring 1-2.

In 2005:
MAL - M. Schumacher scoring lucky 7th place.
BAH - Yeah, no points, but Michael was running at the tail of Alonso before retiring!

In 2006:
BAH - Michael fought for race win.
MAL - Ferraris finished 5th and 6th.

That was because of Michelin.
8th April 2007, 11:30
Ian McC

Do we know for certain that Kimi was running on reduced revs?
8th April 2007, 12:44
Shalafi

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Originally Posted by Ian McC

Do we know for certain that Kimi was running on reduced revs?

Well, Kimi said after the race: "With Massas car it was possible to try to overtake, but with my car no chance at all", I think it is pretty obvious he was running on reduced revs.

And he also said that he will much more competitive in Bahrain, which confirms that too.
8th April 2007, 13:27
Ian McC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shalafi

Well, Kimi said after the race: "With Massas car it was possible to try to overtake, but with my car no chance at all", I think it is pretty obvious he was running on reduced revs.

And he also said that he will much more competitive in Bahrain, which confirms that too.

Thanks for that

Really does but the result into perspective a little, will have to see what happens next weekend.
8th April 2007, 13:48
Big Ben

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shalafi

Well, Kimi said after the race: "With Massas car it was possible to try to overtake, but with my car no chance at all", I think it is pretty obvious he was running on reduced revs.

And he also said that he will much more competitive in Bahrain, which confirms that too.

he was the one that had said the engine was fine before the race, wasn´t he? how about massa? what is his excuse? I'd say... poor strategy.
8th April 2007, 14:40
F1boat

Massa probably ruined his setup when he tried rallying.
8th April 2007, 18:04
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by Sleeper

The Ferraris were potentially 1 second+ faster over a lap in race trim in Australia, its not really posible to tell exactly but they certainly had a large advantage. Having said that, I dont think they have quite a large advantage this time out in Sepang.

Ferraris had 3 tenths over McLaren maximum at Melbourne, not more. Not nearly 1 second.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazio

Why are you having such a hard time admitting that they have a superior race package!

Because they DONT. I would love if Ferraris were 1,5 seconds per lap faster than any other car, but they simply dont have that now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

A view not supported on the evidence of the season so far, but a view that "bigs up" Massa if he manages to win tomorrow.

Did I get my view supported by todays race? I think so. My intelligence shown again.

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