Homophobia

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Originally Posted by EuroTroll

You would be surprised how common SlowSon's view is in post-communist Europe. (I'm willing to bet a princely sum that he's an Easty, based on his comments..)

But let's not ignore, eh? ;) Let's try to help. :)

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I think he is beyond help.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Because to deny them the right to do so is inherently unfair. While I appreciate your very tolerant comments further up this thread, what are you afraid of in this particular instance? We've been over this before, I know, but I resent the notion that I would automatically be an unsuitable person in your eyes to become a parent merely on grounds of my sexuality.

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I am not afraid anything, I just hold that view.

You cannot rightly say that those who are intollerant of intollerance are themselves intollerent! (if you see what I mean!!)

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Originally Posted by SlowSon

So you plead for tolerance to different ones, but when one refuses to agree with the mainstream homosexualism propaganda he is satanized and ridiculed. Hypocritical isn't it :dozey:

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No tolerance for intolerance! :devil:

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I think he is beyond help.

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You never know!

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I resent the notion that I would automatically be an unsuitable person in your eyes to become a parent merely on grounds of my sexuality.

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Were you able, as a couple, to have children naturally, my view of course would be different. You may then turn out to be an awful parent - who knows?

The woman who suffers cancer and ends up with a hysterectomy cannot have children. That is not fair either.

Many areas of life we as a race have looked at and deemed unfair - famine, flood etc. SO we dam rivers, irrigate, send ££gazillions to prolongue life.

As a result we have a vastly overpopulated planet that before long, will choke under the strain. All because it wasn't fair......

I don't expect you to agree, and shan't lose any sleep over that.

So long as you understand I am not singling you out....

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

So long as you understand I am not singling you out....

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I didn't think you were. Needless to say, I have no time for your view at all.

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Originally Posted by Mark

You cannot rightly say that those who are intollerant of intollerance are themselves intollerent! (if you see what I mean!!)

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Exactly. This is an opinion heard often these days, and it's utter nonsense.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

I take issue IMHO with the idea of IVF in same sex couples, as I would with siblings wanting to have children together. Homosexuals cannot naturally have children, and so why should nature be overriden?

Because we can I suppose?

And do we then allow siblings to bear children, and the birth defects that are known can arise to occur?

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You could say the same about heterosexual couple who for some reason could not have children. They cannot have children naturally, so should they be denied the right too? I don't see the gender of the couple makes a difference.

Not sure what to make of the sibling thing, we all know there are reasons why that is not a good concept and I can't relate it to homosexuality at all.

In all though a refreshing thread, I've been to a fair few events and generally I would think motorsport tends to be a mainly heterosexual male pursuit (looking at me making assumptions there!) and it is good to see most here are willing to discuss their thoughts and are generally tolerant live and let live people.

I always think of homophobia as the phobia part. People who have nothing to fear have no phobia. It's a concept worth exploring.

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Originally Posted by Sprocket

I always think of homophobia as the phobia part. People who have nothing to fear have no phobia. It's a concept worth exploring.

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You mean that homophobic people may have a deep hidden homosexual tendancy that scares them?