This used to be the favorite line of the Schumacher fans around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
What changed?
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This used to be the favorite line of the Schumacher fans around here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
What changed?
Well, first you'd have to find out where the Schumacher fans have buggered off to. Don't think there are too many left
We have enough problems agreeing when they're in the same cars as this thread demonstrates :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
It's only opinion and I fully accept yours of Nico is slightly higher than mine. I just don't think the Mercedes is as bad this year as everyone thinks and next year, we will see how Nico does compared to Lewis to detirmine whether the two current drivers are getting the maximum out of it.
Best car, lapdog and number 1 status, replaced with car failures, age and rustiness :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Well since only the results count, I take it from your logic that you think Schumacher is the best driver of all time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Well he could've retired at the end of 2004, but then people would've claimed that he was scared of losing, and use that to justify their own opinion that he wasn't the greatest. We heard it at the end of 2006, with people claiming he was 'scared' of Raikkonen.Quote:
When he first came on the scene, he was as exciting as Lewis but the on-track antics and the cheating has tainted his reputation. He has benefitted from the sort of advantage with cars that Vettel has for the last 3 years and should have retired a couple of years before he did the first time because he didn't have the pace and was inflated by Massa and Ferrari supporting him as the number 1.
2006 was a fantastic championship battle, and Schumacher absolutely had the pace.
I knew that if Schumacher returned people would use every chance they had to denigrate him if the results were unlike his first career in F1. And there you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Saying he was never that great because he hasn't scored more points than Rosberg as a 41 year old, after three years away from F1 is just totally ridiculous.
Schumacher has accomplished so much in his F1 career, that he can "afford" it to put on mediocre results and still being called the most successful F1 driver ever. He really had chances to win a race this year but bad luck and with now having a mediocre car that's not gonna happen.
Well, Schumacher certainly isn't the same driver he was back in 2006, but age alone isn't the only thing. When he left he had the most nighly developed and most reliable car in the whole field not some wonky midfielder. The cars were still cars and not those comedy proportioned contraptions with narrow rearwings, a snowplow for a front wing and those chewing gum tires who drop 2 seconds a lap if you look at them cross-eyed.
F1 2012 requires a completely different skill set than 2006. Schumacher won many races by just driving the doors off his car, if he tried that in 2012, the Pirellis would die after lap 3.
I just loved Alesi in the Ferrari, just the kind of driver that's nice to see driving the red cars. Too bad all his Ferraris were dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Black Knight
He wasn't the number one driver at Benetton in 1991, yet he came and destroyed Piquet immediately. I still remember how Schumacher stayed with the leaders for much of the race in his underpowered Benetton in his very first race for the team at Monza. Simply the best driver of all time. Not one of my favourites though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
Not neccessarily. They weren't exactly front-runners, but the '95 one - in which he finally won - was described as quite a nice car to drive - by M. Schumacher, when he tested it after joining Ferrari.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
The car wasn't bad but a 3-liter V12 engine was never going to work. Just too peaky.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster