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Actually I think Fisichella should be ahead of Ralf. He beat him in every way in the Jordan and the fact that he beat Ralf to the Force India drive just goes to show that Fisichella was the better driver in the end. :)
Ralf was beaten by Fisi, would have been beaten by Button if Jenson wasn't such a rookie, beaten by Montoya, beaten by Trulli.
The only team-mates Ralf beat were past it drivers Damon Hill and Alex Zanardi. Oh yeah, and Gené and Pizzonia.
Drivers have their good years and the odd bad year (take Kimi, Hamilton and Alonso) but Fisi was far too inconsistent to the point he was unconvincing #2 driver at Renault.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjbetty
As you should know its more complex than that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
The point Im making is that some drivers come to f1 with a lot of money from outside sponsors, in the case of Maldonado, from PDVSA. This money goes to the team. He still gets paid his salary for racing with the team too.
Best drivers from 2000 onwards?
1. Schumacher. Nothing to add
2. Alonso. Very fast, very consistant.
3. Räikkönen. Same as Alonso, but not the politician Alonso is. Which caused his downfall at Ferrari.
4. Hamilton. Fast, but not as consistant as those mentioned before.
5. Button. The opposite of Hamilton
Did you watch F1 in 2005 and 2006 by any chance? No?Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
Have to agree with you Garry. Watching 2005 especially you really cant say they were equal then. Kimi had potential multiple titles and may still get them, while I never felt JPM was ever quite ready to win a title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Although Montoya was always great to watch. 2001 he had some brilliant drives, but also some average ones. 2002 alot of poles, but some poor races albeit against a tremendous Ferrari.
2003 he had his only real title charge, the win in Germany was brilliant and dominent.
After that I felt he was quite poor.
Since 2000 (ie 2001 onwards):
Sebastien Loeb - 9 WRC Championships
Michael Schumacher - 4 Formula One Championships
Sebastian Vettel - 3 Formula One Championships
Fernando Alonso - 2 Formula One Championships
Jimmie Johnson - 5 NASCAR Championships
Tony Stewart - 3 NASCAR Championships
Valentino Rossi - 7 Moto GP Championships
Yvan Muller - 3 WTCC Championships + 1 BTCC Championship
Andy Priaulx - 3 WTCC Championships + 1 ETCC Championship
Jamie Whincup - 4 ATCC Championships
Statistically Loeb and Rossi are far far above anyone else. The first four are sort of obvious. The rest? I dunno.
1. Loeb
2. Rossi
3. Schumacher
4. Vettel
Number of championships... nil.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
If you have been affected by this comment, why not ring the JPM Crisis line on 1800-10-10-10. That's 1800 won nothing, won nothing, won nothing. :D
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Who can compete with his CV?
Schumi was arguably past his prime in the 2000s plus the apex of his success came having the dominant car.
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Rollo
Who can compete with his CV?
Schumi was arguably past his prime in the 2000s plus the apex of his success came having the dominant car.