Like people in Asia working for Nike for 60p per day. :(
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Like people in Asia working for Nike for 60p per day. :(
I think we should offer a one way airplane ticket and a first time buyers mortgage to all that wish to return to their native land.
Quit buying Nike shoes. Quit buying products that are made with slave labor.
this is not a hard deal
60p a day is better than on 0p a day. It was hard to explain to someone on this forum a while ago but 3rd world companies have to start somewhere. Countries like India for instance used to have a lot more sweatshops than they do now. Now you find India has a developing IT sector and has a lot more skilled jobs like call centre jobs. 20 years from now a country like India will probably be a lot closer to the West than it is now. All intially because of sweatshop labour. That's not to say I think it's a fair wage or that Nike can't afford to pay more. It's just that boycotting their products just means that more people will be forced to live on 0p a day rather than 60p a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
As for the original question. No.
Ludicrous at best. Then we can apologize for allowing witchcraft,women not being able to vote sooner,slave labor in factories. Then we'll cut them all a check which is what they really want. :confused:
Regarding the first point, funnily someone said the same thing (albeit using different words) on Question Time this Thursday gone. And one of the panelists who is half Indian and half British said of the British rule over the Raj, though not in as many words, "As an Indian should I be the one being appologised to or as someone born in Britain should I be the appologiser?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
The second sums up my feelings. Even if a white did come up to a black in the sreet and appologise, what benefit would it serve the black? Would he/she feel any better? The whites and blacks that ought to be in that situation to are the slaves and the enslavers. My opinion is it is just a way for blacks to feel superior.
Sorry, about the invading, you can PM your account number for compensation. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Of course 60p is better than nothing but that doesn't make it morally right. It's not like Nike or other TNC's have profit margins so small that they have to pay small wages to make money. They can easily afford to pay more and still make money for themselves. Buying fair trade products is an alternative :) (although I don't kow any fair trade sports wear products)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
As for the slave trade who would be apologising? :confused: White people to black people or Britain to black people? Who do black british people apologise to?
This is just dividing white and black people again.
We don't want compensation, we want to return the favour! Just allow us a few free nights out at your best drinking establishments with some of your finest women and we will call it quits :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tomi
Lets see, who really gains by an apology? Do blacks who don't have jobs get jobs from it? No. Do white libreals who talk about making the world better while actually doing nothing concrete feel better? Yes. I see, guilt is a wonderfully useless emotion when it is held by a group of people that actually did nothing to deserve that emotion.
No apology is required since most blacks in modern western nations want better opportunity and jobs, not worthless platitudes. They of course will get this for the most part if they want it, not because someone is holding them down or keeping them there. Freedom means you have the opportunity to succeed, or fail. Most people know this, and a worthless apology from a bunch of people who feel guilty for belonging to a successful society isn't going to mean a damned thing.
Turn that on it's head and ask who loses ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
The gain bit is easy - some people will feel better. I frankly don't know who they are, but as this is a hot topic I guess somebody somewhere suggested an apology and somebody else said it would be a good thing. Therefore, even if it only serves those two people it must be good. No apology serves no people at all, but is making the news in a rather bad way.
As I said earlier, it hurts nobody to say sorry. It costs nothing. Why not then?