Nationwide Race Thread -Darlington

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Originally Posted by slorydn1

There is absolutely ZERO comparison between the Nationwide Series and Triple A Baseball, or the CBA, or the IHL, or NCAA Football. None.

Bingo!!! Anyone who believes such just doesn't understand.

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Originally Posted by harvick#1

and I'm more or less surprised by you Lee Roy because I thought you were all against contact in racing, at least from the Bristol thread, you seem quite the opposite here.

My issue on Bristol is that I didn't want to go back to a track configuration that results in 15 to 20 cautions a race. I prefer the track configuration that results in much fewer cautions. If you confuse that with a what happened at Darlington at the end of the race . . . . well, it doesn't surprise me.

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Originally Posted by slorydn1

There is no wonder why more than half the cars in the field have blank hoods in the series, and if teh cup drivers stayed away completely I believe the Nationwide series would disappear. The Trucks are a different matter all together. They are sufficently different enough as race vehicles to really be its own form of racing, and it has its own group of rabid fans, as well as a bunch of drivers that have made that series their home. I believe the trucks can (and for the most part have) been able to stand on its own without cup involvement.

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Originally Posted by slorydn1

Look Harv, it was an accident, OK? They tried to do the same thing that they did on the previous restart (which, I might add, worked like a charm that time) and it just didn't come out too good on the second attempt. The jury is still out as to whether the cause was the ill advised 2 tire stop or did Sadler just run out of talent (I like Sadler, but there is a reason why he isn't in the Cup series anymore).

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Originally Posted by harvick#1

Sadler is no longer a "cup" driver.

also Cup owners have always been in the Busch/Nationwide series. mostly everyone that moved onto the Cup series was in the lower-tiered series, guys like Biffle, Edwards were groomed from Roush: Kahne from Yates: Earnhardt Jr., Harvick from RCR: Newman from Penske, Kyle Busch from Hendrick and the list goes on and on, these guys were all brought up through the ladder from CUP owners!!! Also how about the Truck Series as a reference, dont they still exist with little to no Cup Owners and Drivers ;)

you guys seem oblivious just like the Danica Fanatics saying that Indy Car was dead once she was gone, guess what, they are running it seems alot better now, people still show up to the races, if the Cup Owners actually gave unknown drivers a chance for a go, hey maybe we'll see another Brad K. then, cause when Jr signed him, no one really had a clue who he was and now look at him

what I'm trying to say is it seems you guys are happy that nothing gets done by the fact that Cup drivers get away with wrecking a driver going for a championship while they are only padding stats. the fact when the leader on the restart gets spun out and wrecked about 100 feet past the s/f line, you saying all the blame is on Sadler. thats like a person getting rear-ended when the light turns green and the person from behind says its all your fault because you didnt accelerate fast enough.

unlike Nascar, most all racing series hold drivers accountable for avoidable contact like that and would've received a stop-and-go. and I'm more or less surprised by you Lee Roy because I thought you were all against contact in racing, at least from the Bristol thread, you seem quite the opposite here.

If you're not going to read the posts before you answer them then I can't help you. I believe I already said that the truck series stands on its own and gave some factors why. I also said that Sadler isn't in the Cup series anymore.

I didn't say all the blame is on Sadler, either. In only the second sentence of the post imediately above this one I said "...they tried to do the same thing that they did on the previous restart (which, I might add, worked like a charm that time) and it just didn't come out too good on the second attempt....." They key being the word THEY.

Look at the whole situation leading up to this incident. Sadler had a 6th-10th place car all night long. Denny Hamlin had the world beater car, no one had anything for him except maybe Logano on a short run. Sadler takes two, gets out first and is restarting next to Hamlin who had 4 fresh tires. Logano bump drafts Sadler down the front stretch and off into 1 and look who comes out p1 and p2 off 2. Sadler and Logano. Sadler checks put early in that run as it takes time for the other guys left side tires to come up to pressure. As soon as they did, Hamlin passed Logano like he was standing still and was hunting down Sadler to the tune of a half second a lap. The yellow comes out just before Hamlin overtakes Sadler.

They re-rack it, same 1-2-3 set up, but now with Dillon behind Hamlin and Kes behind Logano. If they don't try this a second time, Hamlin gets around Sadler by the middle of 1-2 and pays the hotel bill on the way out, meanwhile Logano, Kes, Dillon, Kahne, Stenhouse, Scott, and a few others probably form a conga line right on by Sadler's sitting duck car and he's p9 or 10 anyway.

If Logano and Sadler can pull it off again, Logano may very well had gotten by Sadler within a lap or two and Hamlin would probably have not caught Logano in time, Logano wins, Sadler would have been in the p3, p4 range and his CC would have looked like a genious. It didn't work out the second time, Sadler got loose on Logano's front bumper and Hamlin hooked him into the wall (definitely not Hamlin's fault, he had no where to go). Not the result anyone was looking for, to be sure, but I didn't see anything anyone needed to get a penalty for. Heck, Kes did it to Logano on the next restart after this one, Logano held on to it, and guess who won the race. Yep thats right, Logano.