People Power

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Originally Posted by Rollo

The Lib Dems in the UK could have done that if Clegg hadn't been such an ultimately weak leader

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But they have some power now, which would never have happened without PR (hence their love affair with it). Clegg effectively won the TV debates.

They could promise all sorts in their manifesto as they knew full well they didn't have a hope in hell of winning. They might as well said free Porsches and blowjobs for all!

Nothing party supported by dreamers by in large.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

I listened to the statement from Occupy. It seems quite good and this could be the start of middle america organizing and if that should happen then katie bar the door. The timing is sooooooo right to organize. I am for capitalism but not for uncontrolled greed capitalism. We need a severe adjustment and perhaps this will be the beginning.

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Controlled Capitalism is what we have, its the problem. Its easy to be greedy when you know if you mess up the government will bail you out.. A true free market will limit greed with real risk.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Jethro, good to see the FBI ain't caught up with you yet....that rarefied air of being a professor must be getting them light headed

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Maybe you'd like to come up with a different explanation as to why it's so rare for someone who isn't a Republican or a Democrat to be voted to the Congress, or why there hasn't been anyone but a Republican or a Democrat who has been voted into the Presidency since possibly Johnson.
The deck is currently stacked in favour of the existing two and the party machines and the rather drawn out process of the primaries more or less ensures that the status quo is maintained. I can't forsee anyone but a Republican or a Democrat taking up either the Presidency or a seat in the Congress for a very very long time.

That's why I don't see groups like Occupy or the Tea Party having very much influence at all. It's putting people into seats that actually changes real policy in the long run.

Is the average American bright enough to deal with anything other than 2 parties? Remember these are the same people who voted for Bush and Obama!

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Originally Posted by Bolton Midnight

Is the average American bright enough to deal with anything other than 2 parties? Remember these are the same people who voted for Bush and Obama!

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We are bright enough not to have government dissolving sillyness.

We elect a Presindent for four years, Senators for six years and Congressmen/women for two years.
We do not have any "We do not like this government, let's dissolve it" sillyness.

We elect them and if it is not satisfactory, it is changed next election, not willy-nilly any time some get unhappy as some other rather childish systems do.

This guy is pissed off!
i don't know about the music in the background that means to give it a particular mood . . . . but the fact is that this people take over/ protest gatherings are causing some conversation.

What will eventually happen? i don't know but I a sure glad that it is happening.

Occupy Wall Street Our One Demand - YouTube

http://i51.tinypic.com/k2zujc.jpg

Times are a changing . . .

"10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash.
Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash."

:dozey:
:s mokin:

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

Times are a changing . . .

"10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash.
Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash."

:dozey:
:s mokin:

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Rimshot--LOL.

Okay . . .
so sue me for posting another video link . . . .

This one is ironic - and well done.

I AM NOT MOVING - Short Film - Occupy Wall Street - YouTube