LIve Free or Die.

@ Mr Riebe,

When we take a risk we do so because the reward outways this risk.

So my question is, what reward do you get for driving your car without wearing a seatbelt?

(Is it the relief of every journey when you get out of the car and think, 'YES! I MADE IT! I'M ALIVE!')

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@ Mr Riebe,

When we take a risk we do so because the reward outways this risk.

So my question is, what reward do you get for driving your car without wearing a seatbelt?

(Is it the relief of every journey when you get out of the car and think, 'YES! I MADE IT! I'M ALIVE!')

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We are endowed with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Being left alone to travel in my car as I wish is covered by that.

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Being left alone to travel in my car as I wish is covered by that.

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Not if the law says otherwise:

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Whether you like the laws or not, the WRITTEN laws have the backing of the legal system of the land, period.
Laws change, thank God, but until they do, if you disobey them you are a criminal.

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Not if the law says otherwise:

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The/a Constitution, whether Federal or State, is not the legal system.

Constitution trumps laws as has been proven in court.

I do not have the money to challenge them so I just ignore them.

Rather be a free criminal than butt-kissing law abider.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

The/a Constitution, whether Federal or State, is not the legal system.
Constitution trumps laws as has been proven in court.

I do not have the money to challenge them so I just ignore them.
Rather be a free criminal than butt-kissing law abider.

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Really, it's a pity that you disagree with yourself then:

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Whether you like the laws or not, the WRITTEN laws have the backing of the legal system of the land, period.

Laws change, thank God, but until they do, if you disobey them you are a criminal. Do so is up to the individual and if a Christian, whether the one can stand before God and say-- "I did what I believed was proper."
Here is what the book you supposedly are using for you empty rhetoric says about authority.

[b]Romans 13:1-7 states, ----“Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.--- The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

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Rather be a free criminal than butt-kissing law abider eh? Is that what you believed is proper?

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What about drunk driving? I remember a particularly horrific ad about it when I was working in Ireland. Something with a car rolling through a hedge and flattening a child playing football in his yard.

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Really, it's a pity that you disagree with yourself then:



Rather be a free criminal than butt-kissing law abider eh? Is that what you believed is proper?

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It depends on the laws, of course if you think racial segregation is better than ignoring or outright breaking the law-- that is your perogative.

If you think laws are some holy thing to be obeyed at all costs, that is your perogative also.

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Fining someone who is not wearing a seatbelt is enforcing what really should be common sense to any individual driving a motor vehicle. They are there to stop you crushing your rib cage and vital organs on the steering wheel of your car, and also to prevent you from being thrown through the windscreen. A friend of mine and my wife's had an accident in 2009 where she was texting on her phone whilst driving and not wearing her seatbelt. She crossed over the white lines and had a head on crash which resulted in her being ejected out of the car and landing in the road. She had a blanket put over her and was pronounced dead when a passing doctor decided to have another go at reviving her. He saved her life and she now has paralysis down her left side and has brain damage that will never get better. She lost some of her looks which was awful considering she was a budding model and is still only 22 years old. She was incredibily stupid for using her phone whilst driving and even more so for not wearing a seatbelt. What are your opinions of people who drive along talking on their phones? Do you think it takes away ones freedom if they are fined when caught?

I don't even have to think about putting on a seatbelt as its second nature and pure common sense. Being told to wear one is the law and not taking away your rights and freedom. What utter tripe. Belting up also helps save the mental state of paramedics who arrive on the scene and are able to treat people in most cases rather than scooping them off the road. I do get the impression you judge everything in your life on freedom and entitlement and are angry at anything that remotely suggests you don't have a choice in the matter. :dozey:

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That is your opinion and God help us if such become the standard in the U.S. and it is already too close.

I was spoit out of a car that went end over end at triple digits. Why I was going that fast is not relevant.
A Sheriff saw the accident and was writing up a fatal accident report when I walked up to his car. To say the least he was stunned.
To put a even bigger burr under your saddle, I recieved no ticket of any sort.

Had I been belted into the car, the roll bar was bent down to eye-level and the seat was broken in two.
Those of you who wish squat when ever big-brother says crap, fine for you, but take your self-righteous ego and eat it, it does not become you.

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I was spoit out of a car that went end over end at triple digits. Why I was going that fast is not relevant.
A Sheriff saw the accident and was writing up a fatal accident report when I walked up to his car. To say the least he was stunned.
To put a even bigger burr under your saddle, I recieved no ticket of any sort.

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If you were the driver, then it is only because of the grace of the Sheriff that you even retain your licence. Driving at 100+mph is very good grounds for either reckless or negligent driving; on the face of it, not wearing a seatbelt is the least of the offences here.

It shows flagrant disregard for the standard which you've posted and claim to uphold:

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The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

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