Marty Reid and Scott Goodyear RUINING INDY CAR SERIES!

Thank you Scott Goodyear for noticing that Marco took out half of the field because he was hit from behind. Too bad you realized it 15 minutes after the crash happened. I hope in your defense the monitors in the booth are really small or you are close to legally blind.

I find it entertaining that I disagree with almost everything that comes out of your pie hole.

THAT"S BLOCKING!!!!

Dude, I guess you didn't see the F1 race earlier or you would have had a heart attack.

Keep your eyes on the action Scott, not the pace car. It's a little too late for that.

Buffoon.......

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Originally Posted by bblocker68

Thank you Scott Goodyear for noticing that Marco took out half of the field because he was hit from behind. Too bad you realized it 15 minutes after the crash happened. I hope in your defense the monitors in the booth are really small or you are close to legally blind.

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Not that I want to defend Goodyear or anything. But Marco wasn't going to make that corner with or without Helio hitting him. Maro should be thanking Helio for that little tap ... saves him from all the blame.

True, but Goodbeer totally missed it. And I agree that Marco did overcook it and would have probably made contact. I have a feeling that the carnage would not have been as great.

Marco may or may not have been able to avoid a collision, we'll never know because he was hit by the dancer. Even if Marco did make contact, it may have been a less severe wreck, affecting less cars than it was with Helio turning Andretti sideways going into the corner. Helio deserves the blame for this one.

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Originally Posted by DBell

Marco may or may not have been able to avoid a collision, we'll never know because he was hit by the dancer. Even if Marco did make contact, it may have been a less severe wreck, affecting less cars than it was with Helio turning Andretti sideways going into the corner. Helio deserves the blame for this one.

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Implying that Marco is blameless? Puhleeeeze. The little whiner was an IDIOT going into that first corner like he did. Yes, Helio contributed to the mess. But Marco was destined to wreck regardless of what Helio did. Stupid is as stupid does.

Gary

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Implying that Marco is blameless? Puhleeeeze. The little whiner was an IDIOT going into that first corner like he did. Yes, Helio contributed to the mess. But Marco was destined to wreck regardless of what Helio did. Stupid is as stupid does.

Gary

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I'm not going to repeat my post, but I said, for the size and scope of the accident, you have Helio to blame. He turned Marco sideways going into turn 1 and that wasn't going to turn out any other way than the big crash that happened. I'm glad you have access to the teams telemetry to know for sure how fast Marco was going and his distance to brake for the corner to be so sure he wasn't going to make it.. And since he was so out of control and going to cause a big wreck, then how was it that Helio hit him from behind? Must have been more out of control than Marco and that must make him the bigger IDIOT than Marco, going by your definition. The dancer fell on his ass on this one.

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Originally Posted by DBell

I'm not going to repeat my post, but I said, for the size and scope of the accident, you have Helio to blame. He turned Marco sideways going into turn 1 and that wasn't going to turn out any other way than the big crash that happened. I'm glad you have access to the teams telemetry to know for sure how fast Marco was going and his distance to brake for the corner to be so sure he wasn't going to make it.. And since he was so out of control and going to cause a big wreck, then how was it that Helio hit him from behind? Must have been more out of control than Marco and that must make him the bigger IDIOT than Marco, going by your definition. The dancer fell on his ass on this one.

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Marco being turned sideways by Helio might actually have made the wreck less bad (that doesn't sound like proper English?). Being sideways could have blunted the contact a bit, bigger contact area and all that. Anyway, they were BOTH at fault. The high camera angle was pretty clear. Marco was going to spear someone. He was going way too fast at an angle that would not have allowed him to make the corner, at pretty much any speed. They were clearly both at fault. As you say "the dancer fell on his ass", but you come accross as trying to defend Marco. Perhaps you are not, and I'm just reading too much into it. To defend Marco in any way on this one is a position that I sure can't see having any legs.

One factor missed by the internet "experts". Both Helio and Marco were braking on the painted section on the runway. It would seem both forgot how slippery paint is compared to asphalt. Marco jumped in front of Helio right before the turn (to block?) and braked late and probably wasn't going to to make it on the slippery paint. Helio may have made it if Marco wasn't there, but there was no room for either to blend into the other cars.

This whole mess looked very much like a typical turn 1 at the old Cleveland airport course. Trying to stuff a three wide group of cars into space for 1 or 2 at the most. A low percentage move by BOTH drivers.

Now, back to the original topic. I thought Goodyear was a bit better than in the past, but Marty? Clueless. The director seemed to forget there was a race going on behind the leaders so they get a criticism as well. Not the worst ABC coverage, and better than ESPN on that other series, but lots of room for improvement.

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Originally Posted by DBell

I'm not going to repeat my post, but I said, for the size and scope of the accident, you have Helio to blame. He turned Marco sideways going into turn 1 and that wasn't going to turn out any other way than the big crash that happened. I'm glad you have access to the teams telemetry to know for sure how fast Marco was going and his distance to brake for the corner to be so sure he wasn't going to make it.. And since he was so out of control and going to cause a big wreck, then how was it that Helio hit him from behind? Must have been more out of control than Marco and that must make him the bigger IDIOT than Marco, going by your definition. The dancer fell on his ass on this one.

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No need for telemetry when, as others have also said, the overhead camera shot made it abundantly clear there was no way for Marco to make the corner. Plus it does appear that he jumped in front of Helio and slammed on the brakes. And yes I do think Helio was also out of control at the time. I never said he did not contribute to this wreck. The ONLY thing I was attempting to point out was that, again it appeared, you were defending the mini-whiner, and he has no defense.

Gary

So whenever Goodyear says, "...as we say..." are we all supposed to drink?

Or is he just afraid that people might not remember that he used to try to drive racecars?