No Upgrades Allowed

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Originally Posted by Mark

Well they stopped engine development, which was stupid too.

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True dat.

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Originally Posted by Firstgear

At first glance I must admit that I didn't like the idea. But if you build upon it - by say - mandating that the drivers have to drive for a different team every race - the idea starts to show some merit. Add to that, by replacing points with medals (who could ever understand those numbers anyway) and throw in some random rain and snow storms and you've got a definate winner!

I'm pretty sure that that would get us back pretty close to the original ideal of Formula 1 racing.

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Yes! Yes! Add a style championship... best drift, highest and longest air over the curbs, coolest hand gesture at lapped traffic... An oil slick button and bean bag cannon would also give us the authentic F1 experience ;)

Wow does this idea suck!

I think Stuart has had enough of a kicking now :p

I don't like the idea... the people before me explained very well why it would not work.

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What others have said - the development race through the season is half the fun.

I can see this rule coming in though in the near future - from the same prats that brought us frozen engines and control tyres after all.

The obsession with cost-cutting will be the death of this sport (as a sport), it's most of the way there already.

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The idea would work only as long as Ferrari have the fastest car, in the event they don't expect an immediate U turn by Berni/Todt, we should all remember the result of the engine reg's, I think it went something like this, X many engines per season and no upgrades, that reg lasted until Ferrari was blowing motors, at that point they were given an engine upgrade waiver.

Regards scaliwag.

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Originally Posted by Mark

I think Stuart has had enough of a kicking now :p

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No no dammit! He's on the ground, let's kick him some more!!!! ;)

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Originally Posted by scaliwag

The idea would work only as long as Ferrari have the fastest car, in the event they don't expect an immediate U turn by Berni/Todt, we should all remember the result of the engine reg's, I think it went something like this, X many engines per season and no upgrades, that reg lasted until Ferrari was blowing motors, at that point they were given an engine upgrade waiver.

Regards scaliwag.

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I think the problem is that the FIA have very stringent rules that can never be violiated unless it suits them. It's not just Ferrari but when McLaren, Toyota etc manage to make their engine more reliable and as a consequense, more efficient whereas Renault are allowed to have a couple of free catchup sessions when there is a development freeze on.

You can only innovate when it suits the FIA.

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Originally Posted by skc

I think the problem is that the FIA have very stringent rules that can never be violiated unless it suits them. It's not just Ferrari but when McLaren, Toyota etc manage to make their engine more reliable and as a consequense, more efficient whereas Renault are allowed to have a couple of free catchup sessions when there is a development freeze on.

You can only innovate when it suits the FIA.

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Hi skc, my post was slightly tongue in cheek, however you are of course correct. FIA rules are only adhered to when it suites certain teams to keep the status quo.

By the way do you remember if the Renault waiver came before or after the Ferrari waiver?

Regards scaliwag

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Originally Posted by Ari

No no dammit! He's on the ground, let's kick him some more!!!! ;)

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The idea he proposed was so monstrously stupid that every kick he takes while on ground, he will have deserved tenfold :D