I don't see there any problem for the FIA's Citroen "Sport" group, they had always the strong help of FIA for their "fair" wins.
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I don't see there any problem for the FIA's Citroen "Sport" group, they had always the strong help of FIA for their "fair" wins.
That is actually not a bad idea... The manufacturers championship is after all a bit watered out already, with several teams registered as manufacturers even though there are only 2 (so far) car brands involved...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zico
I can sense some anger and bitterness after the Citroën show in Mexico, i just can't imagine a DS3 1-2-3, some forum members would have gone mad.
Little comment on Brother flemish's post. As the quote says : you can't expect any better from a flemish.
Back to the thread, a dream line up shouldn't be a problem unless it turns out something like Sainz/Mc Rae, Kankkunen/Burns etc... for the recent WRC era.
Latvala is a good example, he had an unfortunate streak of offs, whether he was put on a leash by MW or understood by himself (or both), he got over it, rebuilt his confidence, played his support part in the team, picked up big points and convincing wins.
While a clean fight down to the wire is always enjoyable, WRC is also about team efforts in a fierce competition, not only a matter of individual/ego driver glory, hence compromises.
Drivers must take that into account and drive accordingly, something Ogier the rookie hasn't learned yet.
Τheir strongest help is that they know how to build a fast car.in their first gravel rally they won almost all ss, even with non factory entries(Petter).Only when cruising with 1,5min difference they allow to Ford to gain ss wins.be sure that this is not happening with FIAs strong help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
i just e-mail m-sport suggesting to withdraw the budget of wilson Jr and put it in the development of the car....i really would like to see their reply.
So far i see 2010 rivisited and its very alarming i must say....maybe this year ford will manage and get 2nd place with no problems, but if from 2012 on VW and BMW get serious about their projects i think ford is going to be the new subaru...
ok Ford only had its loyalty to advertise, since they are by far the biggest losers the sport has to show....no other team lost so many in such a long time of involvment, its a joke....but at least they can try and win something when the competition is not that high.
I do not know what is the budget wilson sucks from the team but it would certainly help since both cars are pretty undeveloped now....if they wait then the situation might be irreversible.
No, I think that their strongest help is that they know how to build their cars with something like the illegal FIA restrictor by Toyota.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/t...n-1537474.htmlQuote:
In 1995, Toyota were caught using illegal turbo restrictors at the Rally Catalunya and were given a 12-month ban by the FIA. FIA president Max Mosley called the illegal turbo restrictor "the most sophisticated device I've ever seen in 30 years of motor sports." Toyota and their drivers, Kankkunen, Auriol and Armin Schwarz, were also stripped of all points in the championships. Kankkunen had been in contention for the drivers' world title.
I do hope this is really the future for the Citroen "Sport" group.
So Citroen at last 8 years were with illegal engines?
Tell me more about Citroen illegal engines.I want to know more.
its good that you hope Citroen to have the same luck with Toyota.I am afraid that there is no other way for Ford to win.
If I have not doubt about the future of Citroën there, yours is much more uncertain. It would be careful that you bring the proofs of what you write, or that you erase fast. But maybe you have a very good lawyer?? What you write is not only stupid but certainly more of defamation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
sportingly
are you out of your mind ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
lol.
There are not many drivers out there who can challenge Loeb by speed and consistency. I may be wrong when I guess but I'd say..... none.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
I truly like Ogier´s attitude. Not because he is then more prone to make a mistake but he is one the rare drivers who can push Loeb. Maybe the fact he is Loeb's fellow countryman and in the same team, it affects Loeb more than Hirvonen and Latvala and Solberg.