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He was tested positive directly after a qualifying session. He also admitted that he never drove while under influence but that he did drive while the drugs were in his system. Whatever that means??Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
Everybody deserves a second chance. On the other hand this guy got a second chance at Nascar and also a third chance and he kept blowing it.
I think there is a good point in this. It seems hypocritical to to say he (Shane) can't have a chance with all the problems of Little AL. Substance abuse, relapses, hit and run and assault charges are some of the charges the Al faced, at times while he was still an active driver. If he came to Indy with sponsorship, he'd probably get a ride in the 500. I doubt anyone in Indycar would say he can't race because of his past.Quote:
Originally Posted by gm99
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Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
1. Indy Car does have a lower status then NASCAR. No shame in admitting it.
2. He's an American driver, who has actually won some professional races in his life, who aspires to race Indy Cars. I know, there aren't many of those guys and gals left. But, still.... And most of our current cast put NOBODY in the stands either. ;)
Insert the name of: Wil Power; Ryan Hunter-Reay, Dario Franchitti, Justin Wilson, Raphael Matos for Shane Hmeil in your statement. We have very few people in our sport who appeared on or were featured on a Wind Tunnel type show before they got into IndyCar.Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalPVguy
It could be a great rehab story. Would require testing prior to every race/practice weekend.
The problem is there is no testing which deals with whether the drug is affecting activities; they simply test to see if there is any in the body. How many of us could pass a test which checked to see if we've had any alcohol in the last month or two?
Don't take this wrong, regardless of the testing issue, if it is in your system and you don't have a prescription for it, you took an illegal drug. However, that is different from discussing whether it affected his ability to drive.
NO !!! They don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
let him race, Id say give him a drug test everyday at the track, as long as he is negative and clean, let him race, if he is tested positive for a illegal drug, then he is parked.
Nothing like a good addiction thread for folks true colors to come out.....
*btw I'm a recovered cocaine addict ..... Can I still post
Depends how we feel on any given day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
I figure that most Americans love a story of a guy overcoming adversity. He passes the drug tests, he has admitted to cleaning up his act and taking treatment for his addictions and issues; so let him have a shot. Little Al keeps getting a hearing when it is clear he was a first class JERK at some point in his life and with his demons. Yet if he showed up at the Speedway this May, people would welcome him back.
Scott is right, The IRL isn't as picky and cannot afford to be AS picky. Shane seems to have some talent. If he made a go of it in Indy car and became a great story of redemption, at least we know NASCAR has banned him, he wouldn't be going anywhere!
I'm just speculating here but I believe "under the influence" is when your mind is actually affected by said drugs, however they can remain in your blood system (and therefore detectable by drug tests) after their effects wear off. Of course any drug test cannot detect the level of "under the influence" (excuse the grammar), only the volume of drugs in your system, so obviously when drugs are detected in a test and CAN affect you in a dangerous way, the only option is to assume the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
For instance if I had 10 pints of beer (approx 20 units) one night I might wake up the next morning feeling sober (albeit very hungover), but you can bet that if I got straight out of bed, into a car, and got pulled over for a random breathaliser test my next stop would quite rightly be jail.
Also marijuana I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) can stay in your system for months after using it (even once), even if its noticeable effects on your faculties wear off after a few hours (or certainly by the next day anyway!).
Not that that's any excuse of course - a friend of mine got a job a few years back where he was made aware that he would be subject to very occasional random drug tests as company policy, at that moment he resolved never to have the occasional spliff again, a pledge he has kept to this day, simply because a joint in September might mean a failed drugs test and the sack in November.