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true but it is still a two way street - Indy will not be too far behind if there is nowhere else to race the cars and I think Indy is really magnified by events that bring the cars to the people who cannot get to Indy. I do not dispute that Indy is the king - but a king is nothing without good minions.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
How about trying to capture some of the excitement of actually being at the race. Maybe some different camera angles, but nothing gimicky like "digger cams". The speed really doesn't translate too well to TV. Try to get the Wow factor, like when you see the cars in person. Doesn't have to be expensive, just some different placement of cameras.
That is what you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
Put the cameras where? On the cars? Done. On the wall? Done. On a blimp? Done. On the helmet of a crew member? Done. IN short, the only place they haven't placed one is on Ashley Judd the whole show....in which case we are talking girl watching, not racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by the bro
Not sure your wow factor is going to come out no matter where you think the cameras should go. I know people who work in TV, and we are of the opinion that most of the ideas are pretty much out there now....you cannot reinvent the wheel with current technology, and the really neat stuff costs money. If the series had the money, they could do it...but alas, that is the problem isn't it?
It is a matter of money. There are a lot of things visually they could do for the IRL that could make it more attractive to younger viewers while also keeping the current fans appeased. While many of these ideas could easily be transferred over to other series like NASCAR or ALMS/GA, I do think the racing 200+ mph on ovals, side by side through traffic, still has a visual component that the drivers perceive but the home viewers do not. A variety of camera placement could make a ho-hum race like Texas or Homestead into something that's more exciting, and take an already good race like 2009's Kentucky and make it into a bigger spectacle. I do think that the presentation is something that the IRL has mostly been lacking, although VS has picked up the ball on this to some degree. But yes, it all comes down to $$ and currently the IRL & VS probably doesn't have the budget to do these things. NBC might however. And I have some hope that the new CEO will look into these ideas once he settles in. On the other hand, I agree with the others that there's a 50/50 shot 2011 or 2012 is going to be the season that never happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
No, that is the reality. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
That is your reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
Hard to find any other series or sport centered on one event. An event that does not decided a championship, start or end their season or has any reason at all to be of such importance aside from the most intangible of reasons....tradition.
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Kentucky derby
Michigan vs Ohio state
university of Utah vs byu
Olympics
tour defrance
I'm sure there others
Nick...NBC aint coming. Get that right now. They don't draw enough to justify it unless it is a time buy. Furthermore, the variety of camera placement?They have cameras all over the the cars. Almost every car has a camera. I have been in a TV truck..believe me, this aint cheap putting camera's everywhere and somehow you have to get all the useful footage organized with the director and put on air. THAT isn't simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
The presentation of what VS is putting on air is fine, and the broadcasts I enjoyed, it was the RACING Nick. Get it into your head, the product HAS to be where it starts. It is the reason why the XFL bombed and the NFL is the big dog. THe product is compelling and the best in what they do. Same goes for racing. IF the racing is compelling, then people will buy into and watch. Hardcore fans watch no matter what. THAT is what is showing up on the ratings, us guys who love racing. The casual racing fan went to NASCAR when he got tired of the political craphole of the last 15 years and he now likes THAT product. You have to put a product on the track that is a) different form NASCAR and b)as compelling as NASCAR. IF the racing is dull, I don't even think a camera on every car, helmet, and fence post on the wall is going to make a difference.
As for the assertion you cant build a sport around one event, gee, Horse racing builds it around 4 in the US, Tennis builds it basically around 4, one of which is played on US soil, Golf is everywhere, but it is wallpaper except for the 4 majors, and one event stands out in NASCAR to the extent that making that race can begin or end careers.
Indy's role has diminished greately in the last 15 years, but in proportion with the series. That said, if you are going to get anyone to invest serious dollars in OW in the US, you better have a plan for Indy. IT is the only race moving the needle on ratings on TV. Pretty simple to grasp for those who don't want to, but I can tell you quite safely that it is the only race that might get the lost to NASCAR crowd to watch Indycar racing again...because it will be the only one they find on Network TV, and it will be the only one they can remember unless the IRL is in their backyard one weekend.