Renault to quit F1?

The question is why should any manufacturer be in f1? There has never been a successful manufacturer and so what if they are?

The destruction of the Renault team was caused because Briatore was thrown out of the sport. It became successful because it was Flavio's team and Renault got useful mileage, but now?

There is not a single reason why they should remain in f1. Formula 1 is a sport and the only reason people participate is because they want to. Just like any other.

And with the team now without its assets - Briatore and Alonso - its core value has been destroyed and it ought to be put out of its misery by the company because it is quite simply defunct.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

The destruction of the Renault team was caused because Briatore was thrown out of the sport. It became successful because it was Flavio's team and Renault got useful mileage, but now?

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You're suggesting that they're successful because of Flab? Then what about the last few years? :mark: Flab maketh not the team.....

Renault have been a waste of time in the last two years.

I don't think this has anything to do with the success or otherwise of the Renault F1 team. It is interesting that: [iRenault's emergency board meeting was attended by F1 team bosses Bob Bell and Jean-Francois Caubet, although neither man was allowed to take part in the debate about the team's future.[/i]

I have read reports previously that Renault sales never reflected their successes in F1, and I think this was the deciding factor. The company and sales just didn't get the benefit of all those wins in the WDC and WCC. After all, the Parisiens were clever enough to realise that the car in the show room didn't look anything like the F1 car.

So, another famous and staunch member of the F1 fraternity bites the dust. Next, we'll hear that Toyota wants to leave F1 also.

What!! they already did?? :confused:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

You're suggesting that they're successful because of Flab? Then what about the last few years? :mark: Flab maketh not the team.....

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I find it difficult that Renault believed their success was a result of floating on sleazy Flav. Only the deranged would believe that!!

Renault have been on the verge of quitting ever since they took over Benetton, and remember it was only 1997 when they last quit F1. It was the reason that Alonso ended up at McLaren.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Sleazy Flav was responsible for part of their success but not solely responsible in its entirety. Everyone has their role to fill and success is only achieved when you have that edge in any given moment or period. I think Flav was an extremely good promoter more than a gifted team boss. He had the right skilled people around him, and that combined brought them the success. Now he has been caught up in this latest scandal his name is mud and all of a sudden he is labelled as useless which is easy to assume IMO... :)

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I can think of words more descriptive and appropriate than "mud", like something that comes out of the southern end of a North bound camel.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

I find it difficult that Renault believed their success was a result of floating on sleazy Flav. Only the deranged would believe that!!

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Huh? Flav, like him or not, have won 4 championships. He is a good manager and knows how to organize people. Last years mean nothing. Ross Brawn, Ron Dennis and Frank Williams also have had poor seasons, yet nobody questions their ability.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Huh? Flav, like him or not, have won 4 championships. He is a good manager and knows how to organize people. Last years mean nothing. Ross Brawn, Ron Dennis and Frank Williams also have had poor seasons, yet nobody questions their ability.

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Agreed. Flav went from selling sweaters in America to running an F1 team and against all odds succeeded by using good management skills. I'm not surprised that despite his many deficiencies he was asked back by Renault when they bought out Benetton.

As for Renault, they have been looking for an exit strategy for a while and I don't think Piquetgate helped them much. More importantly, the sponsors have been jumping ship and new ones aren't very apparent. Ghosn being the kind of guy he is, I don't think he's going to waste time on anything he things doesn't give enough bang per buck.

Now Renault might not need an image boost around the world but Nissan does... I wonder if thats the only thing that could save the team now, but not in F1, more in something like Le Mans.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Huh? Flav, like him or not, have won 4 championships. He is a good manager and knows how to organize people. Last years mean nothing. Ross Brawn, Ron Dennis and Frank Williams also have had poor seasons, yet nobody questions their ability.

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I don't suppose that the first two were a result of the driver SchM and some smart cheating with TRACS, while the second two were a direct result of a great driver known as Fernando.

If so, that was just a lucky guess!!