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Another car manufacturer walks away without any consideration to what it does to F1. Fortunately this will open the way for Sauber to remain in F1, so at least we'll have a decent team there.Quote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Camry? You mean Avensis? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shifter
Camry? You mean Avensis? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Shifter
It's a shame for all those people who are about to lose their jobs at Toyota and Kamui Kobayashi who I really hope lands a race seat for next season in F1. However I can understand Toyota's decision, they must have spent billions (I don't think that is an exaggeration) and got a handful of podiums for their troubles. Of course they only have themselves to blame.
Still as one door closes and another opens, I hope Sauber have a good 2010 season.
If Toyota leave they'll be shutting down their factory and making hundreds redundant. I can't see a Ross Brawn or Peter Sauber coming along to save the team.. there's going to be massive job losses here.
I suppose to counteract that arguement would be to suggest that Mercedes haven't got a long history of being Shyte...in Formula One or making overweight, ugly, clunky, inefficient, pointless, environmentally-unfriendly and hopeless hybrid roadcars :p
Bye bye Toyota :wave:
I really feel for those who stand to lose their jobs, but Toyota's F1 programme must surely stand as a lesson to anybody who believes that money buys success. They never "got" F1, with decisions taking an age to filter through the board and a history of mediocre drivers on their books (I'm looking at you, Ralf).
Sad day for F1, good day for Sauber and Mr. Theissen who now probably doesn't have to get involved with touring cars or whatever...Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
As with Honda you wonder whether Toyota would be withdrawing if they were winning races. The "current severe economic realities" rather go hand in hand with the lack of success IMHO.
Ultimately this is what manufacturers do, and have done for years, where F1 is concerned. They come and go when circumstances suit them. Whether any of the new 2010 teams will be around for as long as Toyota were only time will tell.
Another F1 fan spouts off without any consideration of what an F1 programme does to the finances of a manufacturer.Quote:
Originally Posted by DexDexter
It's sad for Toyota and their employees but F1 just costs too much money and if it isn't helping to shift cars then there isn't much point in it.
Well, they could maintain presence in F1 using very little cash. They've got engines they could supply to teams. Why not link up with Sauber or something, wouldn't cost much and if it worked, they'd still get publicity? Obviously that would make too much sense. Same goes for BMW, they've got many engines that are useless now, why not keep in touch with F1 by supplying a team that is willing to pay for the engines? It would make a possible comeback much easier in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Jan Yeo
Nice. :\
Losing 3 manufacturers in quick succession (and possibly Renault too in the future) isn't very good news but then losing Toyota is not that bad really.
Ugly looking cars, dull liveries, not enough ambition in the driver market and not winning anything inspite of all the money they had..I never warmed up to their F1 team (neither am I a huge fan of their road cars but atleast they try hard and succeed in that segment) but we do need some Japanese presence in F1 in the future.