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21st January 2009, 17:28
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by fousto

Well this is now really on my radar. I need one of these
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhstuvzMiB0

Then I am thinking of selling my colt python and replacing it with a 10mm with a 10 shot capacity. A 10mm actually tears up more sh!t on its way through plus an extra 4 rounds before you have to reload is good also.

I am a 1911A1 guy. .45ACP

The Python is a beautiful piece of design but not a very good carry weapon. I hate the cylinder release.

I hunt mainly with a Ruger Blackhawk chambered for .45LC and I use some hot loads provided by a friend. I have a super blackhawk but I find it has too much muzzle flash for my tastes when in the scrub.
21st January 2009, 17:43
Roamy

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

I am a 1911A1 guy. .45ACP

The Python is a beautiful piece of design but not a very good carry weapon. I hate the cylinder release.

I hunt mainly with a Ruger Blackhawk chambered for .45LC and I use some hot loads provided by a friend. I have a super blackhawk but I find it has too much muzzle flash for my tastes when in the scrub.

It was quite interesting - I did a little survey one time and the question was posed as follows:

If you had no other choice but a handgun and knew you would meet up with a mad grizzly - which handgun would you choose? This was in relation to fly fishing on a river.

The interesting answers where actually between a 44 mag and a 10mm glock. 50 cal was not practical to carry. The claim about the 45 was that it couldn't pierce good enough. the 44 was done after 6 rounds. The glock configured at 11 rounds offers a very formidable penetration while saving one round for yourself in case all fails - true story !!
21st January 2009, 18:06
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BSA Cadet :p :
21st January 2009, 18:24
Hazell B

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

Good grief, how many times do we have to say it?! We rape sheep, not cows!

Lightweight :p :

Seriously, I had no idea we had so many knowledgeable gun-toting loonatics in this place. I'm not allowed anything more deadly than sponge cake ..... :(
21st January 2009, 19:04
Easy Drifter

Alright has anyone fired a light machine gun that walked away from you?
It can (could) be used as a sub machine gun but was very heavy for that use.
Interesting.
If nobody has or knows and you want an answer I will tell you. But I need some interest to give an answer. Say Fri. sometime.
I have used them.
21st January 2009, 19:30
jim mcglinchey

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Originally Posted by Hazell B

Lightweight :p :

Seriously, I had no idea we had so many knowledgeable gun-toting loonatics in this place. I'm not allowed anything more deadly than sponge cake ..... :(

I'd no idea we had so many shi+ kicking, red-neck, Okie- from- Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA, types. Just kiddin', Im just jealous because all I have is a lousy BSA Superten. If I lived in America Id probably have quad 50s in an anti aircraft mount.
21st January 2009, 19:35
Hondo

Quote:

Originally Posted by fousto

It was quite interesting - I did a little survey one time and the question was posed as follows:

If you had no other choice but a handgun and knew you would meet up with a mad grizzly - which handgun would you choose? This was in relation to fly fishing on a river.

The interesting answers where actually between a 44 mag and a 10mm glock. 50 cal was not practical to carry. The claim about the 45 was that it couldn't pierce good enough. the 44 was done after 6 rounds. The glock configured at 11 rounds offers a very formidable penetration while saving one round for yourself in case all fails - true story !!

Your best bet is a .22 pistol. That way you can shoot the guy you're fishing with in the leg and run off, for help of course, while he deals with the bear.
21st January 2009, 19:36
steve_spackman

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Originally Posted by jim mcglinchey

I'd no idea we had so many shi+ kicking, red-neck, Okie- from- Muskogee, Oklahoma, USA, types. Just kiddin', Im just jealous because all I have is a lousy BSA Superten. If I lived in America Id probably have quad 50s in an anti aircraft mount.

i did hear about some guy in the states having a anti tank gun in his back garden....strange fella
21st January 2009, 19:41
Hondo

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

I am a 1911A1 guy. .45ACP

The Python is a beautiful piece of design but not a very good carry weapon. I hate the cylinder release.

I hunt mainly with a Ruger Blackhawk chambered for .45LC and I use some hot loads provided by a friend. I have a super blackhawk but I find it has too much muzzle flash for my tastes when in the scrub.

I no longer have my FN FAL, or come to think of it, any black guns, But I've been through them. I agree with you on the 1911A1 in theory and in practice. Oddly enough I have a couple of Ruger Vaqueros in .45LC and a couple of lever action rifles, 1866 Uberti and a Marlin in .45LC from the SASS days.
21st January 2009, 19:51
Jag_Warrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by fousto

It was quite interesting - I did a little survey one time and the question was posed as follows:

If you had no other choice but a handgun and knew you would meet up with a mad grizzly - which handgun would you choose? This was in relation to fly fishing on a river.

The interesting answers where actually between a 44 mag and a 10mm glock. 50 cal was not practical to carry. The claim about the 45 was that it couldn't pierce good enough. the 44 was done after 6 rounds. The glock configured at 11 rounds offers a very formidable penetration while saving one round for yourself in case all fails - true story !!

I'm tempted to say that I'd go with with my .45 WinMag on an AMT frame. AMT's have a reputation for spotty quality (Always Making Trouble), but I've loved mine since the day I got it - never a feeding or cycling problem. I made my shot of a lifetime when I took down a 250+ pound wild bore at 40 yards or so with one shot. As best I can recall, I used 230 or 260 grain jacketed hollow points on that hunt.

With a grizzly, mad or not, that would be a time of extreme stress for lil ol' me (needless to say :eek: ). I'd be more concerned with having a pistol that I was extremely accurate and proficient with, more so than being concerned with the knockdown punch or penetration characteristics of the round. I've never had or shot a 10mm Glock 20 but I believe it's on the same basic frame as the .45 Glock 21 - which I have shot and is similar enough to the .40 Glock 22 that I had... I'd be more than comfortable with it.

So with all that said, even though my .45 Win Mag has never had a FUBAR moment, I'd probably go with the Glock 20. Plus it sports a 15 round mag. Snap a +2 on it and you have 17 rounds! My AMT is only 6+1. I don't see that I'd need more than 4 rounds on Yogi inside 20 yards with the .45 mag, but why take a chance?

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