Donington planning delayed!

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

And were you really 'shocked' by my opinion, or is that just another bit of overblown rhetoric?

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As an avid and fanatical reader of the Daily Mail*, I'm 'shocked' by just about everything.

Whilst I am aware that you personally attribute blame, or at least fault, to a wide spectrum of individuals, there are others within this thread who are targeting either the Donnington management or Mr Ecclestone, and no mention of Mr Stewart.

Your attack on me for having a pre-ordained view would have more merit if you had done the same to them.

Alas, you missed the opportunity, so I remained shocked.







*Legal Note - I've never read that 'Mein Kampf' tabloid.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

As an avid and fanatical reader of the Daily Mail*, I'm 'shocked' by just about everything.

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:laugh:

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Whilst I am aware that you personally attribute blame, or at least fault, to a wide spectrum of individuals, there are others within this thread who are targeting either the Donnington management or Mr Ecclestone, and no mention of Mr Stewart.

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Fair enough.

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Originally Posted by tamburello

As an avid and fanatical reader of the Daily Mail*, I'm 'shocked' by just about everything.

Whilst I am aware that you personally attribute blame, or at least fault, to a wide spectrum of individuals, there are others within this thread who are targeting either the Donnington management or Mr Ecclestone, and no mention of Mr Stewart.

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IMHO you are a tad unfair to attack JYS and point finger of blame solely at him. Whoever chairs the BRDC and negotiates with Bernie represents the interests of the BRDC. I think it would be fair to criticise the BRDC as an institution which looks after its own vested interests.

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Originally Posted by wedge

IMHO you are a tad unfair to attack JYS and point finger of blame solely at him. Whoever chairs the BRDC and negotiates with Bernie represents the interests of the BRDC. I think it would be fair to criticise the BRDC as an institution which looks after its own vested interests.

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Yet Stewart, as chairman, did nothing to bring the BRDC together. Instead, he & Ray Bellm argued, bickered and generally did nothing to improve the situation.

A chairman should do a better job than that.

You'd think that having failed to govern the BRDC, a small motorsport organisation, he would have been a bit less critical of Mosley's running of the FIA, a massive motorsport organisation.

People in glass houses.

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Originally Posted by Oli_M

Oh I am so surprised I did not expect this to happen at all

/sarcasm

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44640

Bye Bye British GP. Thanks Donington.

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Its not Donnington's fault. Bernie has been saying for nearly 7 odd years to Silverstone it needs upgrading, and nothing ever seemed to materialise unless they could get their hands on taxpayers money.

Donnington gave a plan which could be 100% privately funded, so it was bound to move.

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Originally Posted by wedge

I for one don't blame Donington one bit. They're just picking up the pieces from a pile of mess created by Bernie.

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Why is Bernie to blame? He gave them 7 odd years of warnings, and they couldn't meet his demands.

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Originally Posted by PolePosition_1

Its not Donnington's fault. Bernie has been saying for nearly 7 odd years to Silverstone it needs upgrading, and nothing ever seemed to materialise unless they could get their hands on taxpayers money.

Donnington gave a plan which could be 100% privately funded, so it was bound to move.

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Well given that Silverstone - along with mos tother GP organisers - were getting shafted by Bernie's up front fees it's no surprise they wanted to sue government money in some form. The irony being they had plans approved for the new pits etc and then Bernie decided to shift it to Donny.

drop the uk grand prix and thats ok with me. there are so many other exciting circiuts out there waiting for an oportunity.

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

Well given that Silverstone - along with mos tother GP organisers - were getting shafted by Bernie's up front fees it's no surprise they wanted to sue government money in some form. The irony being they had plans approved for the new pits etc and then Bernie decided to shift it to Donny.

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I'm under the understanding that Bernie didn't hike up the fees for hosting the GP for Silverstone. Have you got a source saying otherwise?

My understanding is that Bernie has been on at Silverstone to upgrade its facilities, on numerous occassions, it said it was going to be done, but nothing ever happened.

And if Donnington can do 100% privately funded, but Silverstone can't - why should the public pay for it, when the private can afford to do it for free (to the tax payers) ?

Whilst I'm sad to see Silverstone go, I'm a realist, F1 is a business as much as a sport, and in a capitalist society, the business is vital for F1 (the sport) to survive.

Bernie was more than lenient with Silverstone, I think had it been Turkey or anywhere similar in that situation, the GP would have gone much sooner.

And fact is, at end of the day, the British GP has been saved, just moving to different location.

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Originally Posted by PolePosition_1

Why is Bernie to blame? He gave them 7 odd years of warnings, and they couldn't meet his demands.

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Well, Bernie's business model is now showing cracks. Silverstone is your average GP venue and healthily attended, China's GP is heavily funded and struggles with attendance have already realised its an unsustainable business model.