The end or the world as we know it!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Not knowing the history of F1 and the Ferrari / FIA relationship would explain why you cannot see the pattern of bias but I suggest you really do consider some of the considerable knowledge that people here like Micky have.

This "one rule for us and one rule for them" has been going on for years.

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I didn't say I only started to watch F1 last year. Just that I only started watching it religiously since last year.

I know very well the whole FIArrari story that people go on about but just like others I see no reason to believe it as it goes both ways at times :)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I didn't say I only started to watch F1 last year. Just that I only started watching it religiously since last year.

I know very well the whole FIArrari story that people go on about but just like others I see no reason to believe it as it goes both ways at times :)

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Even when Max confirms that Ferrari are the most important team in F1 and his relationship with Luca is "very personal" whereas with Ron it isn't?

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/n...eam_in_f1.html

Mind you, the thought of a "very personal" relationship with Max makes me shudder!!

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

This "one rule for us and one rule for them" has been going on for years.

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So why did it take 21 years for a Ferrari driver to win the championship?

Please explain that, because I'd love to know how your theory holds up to that fact?

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Even when Max confirms that Ferrari are the most important team in F1 and his relationship with Luca is "very personal" whereas with Ron it isn't?

http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/n...eam_in_f1.html

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That's as much Ron Dennis's fault as anybody elses.

Besides which, not many people have ever had a 'personal relationship' with Ron.

Niki Lauda - "Ron wasn't the type that attracted me as a friend and, irrespective of how much money he was paying, that wasn't going to change"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007...orsports.sport

Niki Lauda - "Ron Dennis congratulates me and says how pleased he is. I don't believe him for a minute"

http://www.forix.com/8w/lauda.html

Juan Pablo Montoya - "With Ron, you have a nice dinner with him one evening and then when you say 'hi' the next day, he is a totally different person"

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/300720...obotic-f1.html

Jacques Villeneuve - "I want to say one thing to you - F*** you"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...8/ai_n12580262

David Coulthard - "The door opened and Ron walked in. I stood up to shake his hand and Ron ignored me. Instead he strode over to sit next to Mika and said, 'What's the plan (for the race), guys?' We all listened to Mika's plans and then Ron said, 'OK, what are they doing?. Here was my team principal talking about me as if I was a rival team. 'They' is not a word you use in a team situation, surely? At that exact moment, I think the naivety, the innocence of my youth, shattered around me"

http://www.duemotori.com/news/f1/196..._Coulthard.php

Thing is, I read your post and agree with everything.

However, I then realised that I've been 'on a high' so far this week due to Heidfeld's podium, was in a depressing mood as Petter failed in the WRC in Spring, and still feel good over Fulham's ridiclous escape from relegation last season.

So to me, sport is as, if not the most impotant thing in my life. Sad I know, but true...

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Originally Posted by pettersolberg29

Thing is, I read your post and agree with everything.

However, I then realised that I've been 'on a high' so far this week due to Heidfeld's podium, was in a depressing mood as Petter failed in the WRC in Spring, and still feel good over Fulham's ridiclous escape from relegation last season.

So to me, sport is as, if not the most impotant thing in my life. Sad I know, but true...

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Seriously, you have problems!
I feel bad for your girlfriend. Do you even have a girlfriend?

Here's the gist. Heidfeld's career is in the closing chapters and Petter will never achieve anything near 1st place (unless the leaders all fall off pace in a sudden manner) with that pig of a Subaru.

There's more to life than cars. :eek:

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Originally Posted by tamburello

That's as much Ron Dennis's fault as anybody elses.

Besides which, not many people have ever had a 'personal relationship' with Ron.

Niki Lauda - "Ron wasn't the type that attracted me as a friend and, irrespective of how much money he was paying, that wasn't going to change"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007...orsports.sport

Niki Lauda - "Ron Dennis congratulates me and says how pleased he is. I don't believe him for a minute"

http://www.forix.com/8w/lauda.html

Juan Pablo Montoya - "With Ron, you have a nice dinner with him one evening and then when you say 'hi' the next day, he is a totally different person"

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/300720...obotic-f1.html

Jacques Villeneuve - "I want to say one thing to you - F*** you"

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...8/ai_n12580262

David Coulthard - "The door opened and Ron walked in. I stood up to shake his hand and Ron ignored me. Instead he strode over to sit next to Mika and said, 'What's the plan (for the race), guys?' We all listened to Mika's plans and then Ron said, 'OK, what are they doing?. Here was my team principal talking about me as if I was a rival team. 'They' is not a word you use in a team situation, surely? At that exact moment, I think the naivety, the innocence of my youth, shattered around me"

http://www.duemotori.com/news/f1/196..._Coulthard.php

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So, you don't see that it wrong for the president of the FIA to admit that Ferrari are the most important tem in F1 and his relationship with Luca is very personal.

I suppose it's OK if you dont want impartiality.

Honestly Tamb, you cannot defent admitted bias, can you?

Please say you wont.

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Seriously, you have problems!
I feel bad for your girlfriend. Do you even have a girlfriend?

Here's the gist. Heidfeld's career is in the closing chapters and Petter will never achieve anything near 1st place (unless the leaders all fall off pace in a sudden manner) with that pig of a Subaru.

There's more to life than cars. :eek:

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Definitely :up:

I know it might sound like I give a crap about this but at the end of the day I really don't care if the penalty gets overturned or not. Makes no difference to my life.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

So, you don't see that it wrong for the president of the FIA to admit that Ferrari are the most important tem in F1 ...

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Well, he was stating the truth. Is that a crime? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Definitely :up:

I know it might sound like I give a crap about this but at the end of the day I really don't care if the penalty gets overturned or not. Makes no difference to my life.

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:up: