How strong is the Ferrari?

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

Ferrari cannot have another weekend like this, surely. A combination of bad luck, schoolboy errors and unreliability was not the best way to start the year, but winter testing suggests they have the best car out there and I suspect they'll bounce back strongly next weekend.

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Well, Kimi was able to drive incredibly fast after he passed Barrichello. Proving that as far as speed is concerned the car has it. I am wondering though if they left in Italy the car they used to test in the winter and brought to Australia an other car. It's way beyond my understanding how they could do such a horrible job. Not to mention that ALL Ferrari engines did not make it to the end of the race. That's way worrysome.

For Kimi's sake I hope this was just "accidento bizarro" and things get back to the level they should be with reliability and tactics. It seemed that Ferrari froze when things weren't predictable.

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Originally Posted by eu

Massa was quite impressive... he did manage to cause another accident... or was it somebody's else fault as usual? keep up the good work Felipe and don't forget to whine a bit too...

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Surprisingly enough Massa seemed to be a little arrogant the way he was driving. But I think overall they were under pressure to do well on a track where Ferrari traditionally does very well. As someone else said it before though, I would be carefull in getting ready to go to the Ferrari's funeral already. Ferrari, as you'll know very well has always shown the ability to get out the hole they found themselves in many times. So....
I would be definetely ok with Ferrari screwing up the first race and McLaren doing the same with the last one :)
Totally ok with it

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Originally Posted by ioan

Bring Todt back!
Domenicalli and his team made the worst calls from all the teams out there.
Both Kimi and Felipe should have been called for refueling during the SC period when Lewis did his, and they would have had a chance for the win and definitely for the podium.

The drivers are good, Felipe impressed me with all the overtaking moves he manged. Kimi had good pace but was way to inpatient with Heiki and Glock and made more unforced errors.
The cars looked also in good shape, they managed to do half distance on the softer tires! :eek: That means that they are very balanced!

However the tactical team is pants.
They should have fueled Felipe up to the bottom at his very first stop, instead they called him in again 1 lap later.
They didn't take advantage of the SC periods.

Worst race by the Ferarri tacticians in few years. Let's hope they got rid of all the bad luck in this first race.

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I don't think the new guys are totally in charge. After all Todt, Ms and Montezemolo are still there and ready to intervene if necessary. I am sure that they already talked to the new people and also I am sure they (the new guys) are feeling the pressure from above and I am sure they are not going to screw up a third time. So, IMO the next race is going to be very crucial for them.

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Originally Posted by VkmSpouge

Ferrari need to address the reliability issues first and foremost but with only a week between races they won't have the time. Ferrari will have to hope the car holds together in Sepang.
I don't think Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen will make the same mistakes in Malaysia.

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They are not going to make the same mistakes again IF they are going to qualify well. Unfortunately when you start from the back you'll have to take your chances, as they did yesterday. Starting from the first row is always the safest spot.

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Originally Posted by mstillhere

I don't think the new guys are totally in charge. After all Todt, Ms and Montezemolo are still there and ready to intervene if necessary. I am sure that they already talked to the new people and also I am sure they (the new guys) are feeling the pressure from above and I am sure they are not going to screw up a third time. So, IMO the next race is going to be very crucial for them.

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I think that Todt might be in Sepang next week end, just to make sure they don't screw it twice in a row.

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Originally Posted by mstillhere

Unfortunately when you start from the back you'll have to take your chances, as they did yesterday. Starting from the first row is always the safest spot.

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What is Massa's excuse then? I think all of us that watched the race would say that they thought Massa went off due to contact. When the replay showed that half way round the corner he actually ran out of talent, the niggling thought that he will struggle 'sans TC' was proven to be very well 'thunk'

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

What is Massa's excuse then? I think all of us that watched the race would say that they thought Massa went off due to contact. When the replay showed that half way round the corner he actually ran out of talent, the niggling thought that he will struggle 'sans TC' was proven to be very well 'thunk'

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Man, you stuffed your .... so far up your ... it's incredible.
Massa spun once, Kimi spun twice!
Senna spun, Prost did it too, MS also and the list goes on and on!
So what? Does that make less good drivers?!

PS: At least they didn't do it on the pit entry road at 60 mph and with TC! :p : :laugh:
And BTW I almost forgot to answer your question, Massa was trying to go around HK on the outside when he spun. Good effort on his part I say.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Man, you stuffed your .... so far up your ... it's incredible.

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Speak up Son, its a bit muffled in here. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by ioan

Massa spun once, Kimi spun twice!
Senna spun, Prost did it too, MS also and the list goes on and on!

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Well, in the days of Senna & co, the engines were like on/off switches..... As for both Ferrari drivers doing syncronised spinning, they need to pull their socks up

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Originally Posted by ioan

So what? Does that make less good drivers?!

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Lets see....

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Originally Posted by ioan

PS: At least they didn't do it on the pit entry road at 60 mph and with TC! :p : :laugh:

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Shucks, did the Ferrari's have shot rears today, are you making excuses for them? :rolleyes:

Learn to relax a little, I'm only voicing opinion, don't take it personal. ;)

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Originally Posted by ioan

And BTW I almost forgot to answer your question, Massa was trying to go around HK on the outside when he spun. Good effort on his part I say.

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Would you say that of a non-Ferrari driver, I can't help asking myself, or would you criticise them for making a mistake?

Yes, it was a mistake, but nothing like this deserves vitriol. It's only racing, and it all added to a highly entertaining race. Who cares if mistakes get made? They always have and they always will. They're not all stupid and many are excusable, just like the ones we all make.