why vw drivers pay to drive? so ''everyone'' who wants a championship has to pay,or just walk around and earn millions while moaning about no budgetQuote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
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why vw drivers pay to drive? so ''everyone'' who wants a championship has to pay,or just walk around and earn millions while moaning about no budgetQuote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Even in IRC works drivers have been mostly paid by the teams.
Was it not an rumour here that Østbergs tried to "buy" the second Citroen seat??Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
I don't like the whole "brings money" or "gets paid" separation of drivers. The definition itself is irrelevant and also quite impossible to do without knowing all the details of contracts etc. What is Fernando Alonso for example? Most would say he gets paid as he is but his sponsor bring more money to Ferrari than he gets paid. Does that make him so bad that he has to pay for a seat? :) .
All the top drivers are doing rally for living and are getting money out from it for living. There is of course some exceptions to this rule as always everywhere but it does not change the big picture.
Sponsors (or their PR representatives) would love to have a great, good-looking raising future star in their team. So they will search them. Very hard. When driver is really good he will attract sponsors. Sponsors then start to bring in money to help their drivers. If the driver/manager has been successful in commercializing his personal product there will be a good amount of personal sponsors. In the case of good personal sponsorship (to driver) he will get salary (from sponsors) for driving and in the same time his sponsors bring the money to the team....and the driver gets a pay driver stamp on his head.
Other driver in a different situation may have contracts made so that he attracts sponsors for the team but has much less personal sponsors and so gets immediately defined to "gets paid" category. Usually both the drivers manager and team are trying together to put the best combination package to draw as much money from the market as possible. Will Robert Kubica be paid driver or a pay driver next year if he drives DS3 with huge McDonalds stickers? ;) .
Kovalainen thinking about rally, also Henning said rally or nothing.
Interesting about Kovalainen, he said that in past he had chance to drive rally car but he chose F1.
Well he said more like that in the beginning of his career he had all the possibilities to drive in the woods and go for rallying, but he choose circuit racing instead. But he has driven some stages in Arctic Rally (2003/2004 or something?) with Focus WRC and if I remember right the stage times were quite good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartek
Lappi is a new factory driver in Skoda Motorsport. He will compete in some rounds of WRC2. Kopecky in ERC.
Juho Hanninen finished at Skoda, Kopecky and Lappi will be lineup in 2013 - Autosport
So has Juho the budget for WRC?
That's brutal for Juho. An ERC program for two crazy Finns Juho and Jarkko would be a dream..
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and from Skoda Motorsport:Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
?KODA - ?KODA Motorsport in 2013: Esapekka Lappi, WRC-2 and preparations for the future
I wonder how much this is a Skoda decision and how much influence VW have had in getting Lappi into their 'academy'.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarriK
It seems to me that someone in VW has decided very early the Juho has no future in VAG machines. Very strange.
Juho deserve to be in WRC, he is very fast guy on tarmac and on gravel. But nowadays if you don't have few millions on your bank account you are nobody... I have crossed fingers for him because i like what he did to this day with his carrer
I will miss Juho in Škoda. Through the past seasons he became a little bit "our" boy here in Czech Republic, very popular driver between the fans. Wish him the best luck!
I actually think he's been treated pretty shabbily. He's won the IRC, ERC, SWRC - What more could he have done? He deserves some kind of drive with the VW team. I do wonder about this sport sometimes.
Meja - A'll Bout The Money - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
For me title of this song perfect fits to motorsport today :)
Too much, too soon, I'd say. I should be happy about Lappi getting a chance, but as it is at the same time connected with news of Hänninen loosing a seat, I can't, really can't be happy. I won't hold this against Lappi, but still - Hänninen deserves better, not just waiting for a prize money from lottery.
I don't think that it was Škoda decision. AFAIK Juho was offered to continue. Either he didn't want or was waiting too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Hanninen should be in WRC. Nothing more to achieve in ERC I think. Hope he can find a drive
I am rather sure that Juho will drive World Rally Car in 2013. Tomi Tuominen will be his new codriver and Lasse Lampi was negotiating with Malcolm Wilson during the Rally de Espana. Hopefully they can find the budget, but the car could be also MINI...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I strongly hope for that ;)
I also believe that Juho has a WRC programme secured. He indicated quite clearly earlier that Skoda contract has been offered and is a backup. Either WRC or farming then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
Maybe You didn't notice the full content of the press release in which they say Lappi will do WRC2. Originally he was planned for ERC so to me it looks like WRC2 was originally planned by Škoda for Juho and after he left they moved Lappi to his place. Just my guessing though...
Hanninen in a WRC Fiesta would be interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by rp
WT
from Colins twitterQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Don't think he's quit Michael, think he's been pushed out!
https://twitter.com/voiceofrally
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Originally Posted by Mirek
Don't think he's quit Michael, think he's been pushed out!
from Colins twitter
I'm pretty sure he was offered to continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Don`t know how Ford Europes withdrawal affected things, but during NORF it was a quit sure thing "in the paddock" that Juho was to drive in the M-sport team in 2013, but as I said I haven`t heard or asked around any since.. And for sure the Ford withdrawal had some effect?!
Great news!
Hänninen driving M-Sport's WRC Fiesta next season confirmed! Not too much details though.
Juho Hänninen huippukalustolla rallin MM-sarjaan - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset
EDIT: as predicted, co-driver will be Tomi Tuominen.
Great! Hopefully he can do as many events and tests as possible :)
In the same News Hänninen's first test with Fiesta is confirmed to be in the middle of december in France for Monte. So looks like a proper factory-like deal but needs an official confirmation.
Holy #¤% that is awesome, finally.
Hehehehe. Another flying finn. What could be better. Great news for Hanninen.
So Ford are still keen to If you wanna win, you need a Finn
Thats great news indeed !
Glad to hear! So is he #2 to ostberg then?
So it seems petter is out then.
Got to be honest, I am happy to see Hanninen given a chance even if at Petter's expense. He'd be my first choice if Petter wasn't an option, so hope he does as well as we all know he can! I'd fancy him to beat Ostberg over a season quite easily too.
Hana Juho!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice choice from my friend
There's still some justice in this world. With proper deal and testing Juho can really do a great result right away as he is one of the most complete drivers around. Speed-reliability-tarmac-gravel-snow! And maybe the most important of all, a winner mindset and enough age and life experience so that he can handle pressure. :)
Really cool! :D